Open War

POSTED BY: dreamtrove
UPDATED: Thursday, March 2, 2006 12:09
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DREAMTROVE

Tuesday, February 28, 2006 7:58 PM

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/02/27/AR2006
022701128.html

All I can think is the YEAs 77, NAYs 23, the vote tally on the Iraq War resolution. And the Admin who pushed for this war, and all the people who thumped, and some are still thumping, the war drum. What a bunch of arrogant schmucks. Self righteous arrogant schmucks.

What did you think was going to happen?

"Oh, no, we're not going to have any casualties." —President Bush, discussing the Iraq war with Christian broadcaster Pat Robertson, after Robertson told him he should prepare the American people for casualties
"Ladies and gentlemen, these are not assertions. These are facts, corroborated by many sources, some of them sources of the intelligence services of other countries." –Secretary of State Colin Powell, testifying about Iraq's chemical, biological, and nuclear

weapons capabilities before the United Nations Security Council, Feb. 5, 2003
"It's hard to conceive that it would take more forces to provide stability in post-Saddam Iraq than it would take to conduct the war itself and to secure the surrender of Saddam’s security forces and his army. Hard to imagine." –Deputy Defense Secretary Paul

Wolfowitz, testifying before the House Budget Committee prior to the Iraq war, Feb. 27, 2003
"My belief is we will, in fact, be greeted as liberators." –Vice President Dick Cheney, "Meet the Press," March 16, 2003
"We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat." –Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, when asked about weapons of mass destruction in an ABC News interview, March 30, 2003
"Major combat operations in Iraq have ended. In the battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed." –President Bush, standing under a "Mission Accomplished" banner on the USS Lincoln aircraft carrier, May 2, 2003
"I think they're in the last throes, if you will, of the insurgency." --Vice President Dick Cheney, on the Iraq insurgency, June 20, 2005
"My answer is bring 'em on." —President George W. Bush, challenging militants attacking U.S. forces in Iraq, July 2, 2003

And there are a lot more that I couldn't find. One was I think Perle telling us that the actual cost of the war was going to be around one billion dollars. There was one of Rumfeld telling us that the Iraqis were going to be ready to take over in... and then some estimate that has long since passed. And the schmuckisms just go on and on. We live in a schmuckocracy.

PIZMOBEACH

Tuesday, February 28, 2006 8:06 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by dreamtrove:
We live in a schmuckocracy.

Yeah, but it's our schmuckocracy.

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GAMMARAYGIRL

Tuesday, February 28, 2006 9:52 PM

It's a bit of a cluster.

Sorry for the language.

CITIZEN

Wednesday, March 1, 2006 12:16 AM

But DT, as we all know Bush and his administration nor the "Coalition" that backed him up didn't start the war. Uhuh, oh no.

It was the pixies.

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SEVENPERCENT

Wednesday, March 1, 2006 12:23 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by gammaraygirl:
Sorry for the language.

Didn't see you use any. Have to actually cuss, I think, to apologize.

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GINOBIFFARONI

Wednesday, March 1, 2006 1:12 AM

Not much different from any US admin going back to...

well a hell of a long way anyway

" Over and in, last call for sin
While everyone's lost, the battle is won
With all these things that I've done "

The Killers

http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/killers/allthesethingsthativedone.html

DREAMTROVE

Wednesday, March 1, 2006 1:32 AM

Back to Eisenhower, that would be, the last president to not attack anyone, if you don't count Ford who didn't really have a chance. Clinton attacked the most, followed by Kennedy, probably Reagan, in terms of different targets, in a post-Truman world.

Bush may not have started it, but he's f^&ked it up nicely.

GINOBIFFARONI

Wednesday, March 1, 2006 1:47 AM

Eisenhower destroyed the last chance of democracy for Iran when he reinstalled the Shah....

Truman.... hard to say where the Marshall plan was defensive or offensive, because it was both in many cases

FDR really pushed many imperialistic themes, but without the economic clout

Hoover I would say was the last good man to hold that office....

" Over and in, last call for sin
While everyone's lost, the battle is won
With all these things that I've done "

The Killers

http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/killers/allthesethingsthativedone.html

DREAMTROVE

Wednesday, March 1, 2006 2:16 AM

Hoovers American Socialism caused an economic disaster worldwide which lead to WWII. I'm going back to Coolidge.

GINOBIFFARONI

Wednesday, March 1, 2006 2:21 AM

I'm going from a foreign policy standpoint...

I figure internal policys and politics you yanks can
do whatever you like

" Over and in, last call for sin
While everyone's lost, the battle is won
With all these things that I've done "

The Killers

http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/killers/allthesethingsthativedone.html

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