I know everyone wants a new Firefly series, but...

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ASARIAN

Tuesday, February 28, 2006 12:32 PM

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Originally posted by RiveR6213:

Not really. A fat greasy cow is something I am not, but it seems that that comment regarding fat greasy cows got your limited attention. There are websites for that sort of thing if you are into it, and I suspect you are.
Your post just shows what a knuckle-dragging idiot you really are. Look, I'll give you a tip...its called fire and you can use it for a great many things. Next I show you what a wheel can do for you...it might change your life, or in your case it might not because you are to stupid to get it.

Ha! :)

I was anxiously awaiting how you would handle yourself here; obviously, quite, quite well. :) You rock!

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"Mei-mei, everything I have is right here." -- Simon Tam

HIXIE129

Tuesday, February 28, 2006 2:40 PM

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Originally posted by RiveR6213:

Not really. A fat greasy cow is something I am not, but it seems that that comment regarding fat greasy cows got your limited attention. There are websites for that sort of thing if you are into it, and I suspect you are.
Your post just shows what a knuckle-dragging idiot you really are. Look, I'll give you a tip...its called fire and you can use it for a great many things. Next I show you what a wheel can do for you...it might change your life, or in your case it might not because you are to stupid to get it.

River is like fine gold, a rare jewel. She is precious. I just want to hold her in my arms.

OBSESSEDWITHFIREFLY

Tuesday, February 28, 2006 4:19 PM

I am by no means happy about the fates of Book and Wash, but this does not mean that the story could not continue in a compelling and satisfying manner. It would be interesting to see how Zoe copes with her loss. Furthermore, adding a new character or two could provide many new twists and enable the other characters to be explored in different ways. I would have liked to learn more about the secrets of Book's past, but there still are ways of exploring those possibilities. (i.e. flashbacks, finding his "diary", meeting old friends of Book, etc.) Hey, sounds like a good episode! I would look forward to any new show.

ZORPRIME01

Tuesday, February 28, 2006 5:13 PM

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Originally posted by ceril:
i think the deaths are ok, you can go back to a tv show w/ those charecters. just when the series is fininshed set it up by having book leave and form his lil colony and have Inara leave again. There was never any timeline established from the series to the movie was there?? I look at the 2 as seperate storeis anyhow.

I too was extremely upset by Wash's death, but as was said, both Wash and Book served a purpose in the movie. Book's death helped spur Mal into action, and Wash's death gave us the hightened tension that any/all of the crew could very well be killed.

As far as the timeline goes, I believe it is mentioned early in the movie that Simon and River were aboard the ship for approximately nine months.

Also, there was a three-issue comic book mini-series written by Joss Whedon that chronicled the period between the t.v. show and movie.

Personally, while they are separate and have a slightly different feel, I thought of 'Serenity' more as the end of the first season of the series, which we never got. It is clear that the movie was made not knowing whether there would be another.

I aim to misbehave.

SAZMAN

Tuesday, February 28, 2006 7:15 PM

Remember that Joss has a history of killing characters in Buffy (Tara, Anya, Buffy's mom, Jenny Calendar), and Angel (all of the Wolfram and Hart villains, Doyle, eventually all of the mortals - Fred, Wesley, Gunn), and introducing new characters to the core group.

If Firefly were still on air, it's possible that Book or Wash would have died anyway by now, and a new crew member or two would have come on board.

It's just one of the ways he likes to let his stories unfold. He has already said that the plot of Serenity was basically season two of Firefly compacted into a two-hour movie, so he may well have decided to kill both of them in the series as well.

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Start with the part where Jayne gets knocked out by a 90 pound girl. 'Cause I don't think that's ever getting old.

STORYMARK

Tuesday, February 28, 2006 7:35 PM

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Originally posted by sazman:
Remember that Joss has a history of killing characters in Buffy (Tara, Anya, Buffy's mom, Jenny Calendar), and Angel (all of the Wolfram and Hart villains, Doyle, eventually all of the mortals - Fred, Wesley, Gunn)...

Actually, much to my surprise, Gunn seems to have lived. There's a new Angel comic mini-series that started about a month ago, in which Gun (now missing an eye) seeks out Angel in (I think) Eastern Europe (where the previouse post-series Angel comic was set).

I imagine some people don't count the comics as cannon, but since I believe Joss has story approval on all the comics - and since we're not likely to get any more filmed Angel adventures for a long time (if ever), it would seem that Charles somehow survived the nasty dust-up we didn't get to see in the final episode.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

SAZMAN

Tuesday, February 28, 2006 8:04 PM

That is interesting, since shortly after the final episode, Joss announced at a convention that Gunn was dead, too, that the survivors of the big, unseen battle were Angel, Spike, and Illyria, all super-powered immortals.

He must have changed his mind, which is his perogative, of course.

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Start with the part where Jayne gets knocked out by a 90 pound girl. 'Cause I don't think that's ever getting old.

WHISKEYJAKE

Tuesday, February 28, 2006 9:03 PM

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Originally posted by obsessedwithfirefly:
I am by no means happy about the fates of Book and Wash, but this does not mean that the story could not continue in a compelling and satisfying manner. It would be interesting to see how Zoe copes with her loss. Furthermore, adding a new character or two could provide many new twists and enable the other characters to be explored in different ways. I would have liked to learn more about the secrets of Book's past, but there still are ways of exploring those possibilities. (i.e. flashbacks, finding his "diary", meeting old friends of Book, etc.) Hey, sounds like a good episode! I would look forward to any new show.

Ah, so someone else has the opinion I do. The loss of Book and Wash was shocking but it has so much potetial to bring out more in the surviving characters. I could maybe see the addition of one new character to the crew. It's one that could bring in a whole new perspective. Add Safron to the on going cast. I'm sure Joss could think of a way to make that work and just think of the fun that could bring in. The tension between her and Inarra could bring in a new depth to the Inarra character.

JOCKOCKEYOCK

Tuesday, February 28, 2006 10:51 PM

I THINK YOU ARE considerably
OVER EXADURATING!!
THINK OVER IT A Minute...
To kill off Alin and to
Eliminate Ron's characters, was indeed impacting.
It was almost a necessity to the movie, the last strive of those remaining a push to complete the task ahead the basics of all hero stories.
But that he killed off Wash and Book means nothing but an interesting memory. Remember that Mal strives to live forward while remaining in the state of war unable to let go of his loss at Serenity.
I think that Joss can make this tragedy work if he were to some how, with divine intermissions from gods, continue, Firefly.
I also think due to the movie being about mainly River’s story that she could fill in the character gap of two people because of the new insight of her perspective… though it was really in my opinion Serenity’s perspective.
Or he could elaborate on adding new crew.
I too was not a fan of Joss before I watched Serenity and Firefly…
I grieve in the most utter bereaved state of mind for the loss of Firefly. So I would not really care about the differences as long as the story is finished or continued or is laid to rest in a more peaceful state of being. The movie it self intrigued many people so how could some one torture their fans so much as to not finish what had began.

River: Won't stop. Won't ever stop. They'll just keep coming until they get back what you took.

OBSESSEDWITHFIREFLY

Tuesday, February 28, 2006 11:13 PM

Sounds good. Who's gonna tell Joss?

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