Any atheists in here?
POSTED BY: BlackCollarBrowncoat
UPDATED: Sunday, March 12, 2006 20:19
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Kind of off topic I know, but after the Noah's Ark incident, didn't God say he/she/it (I'm not being rude by saying that, why should I assume that if there's a god, it's a man?) would never flood the earth again?
Gotta be fair here, 100% of the globe has not been covered with water....ever, so who knows if he's broken it or not?
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Originally posted by Anna:
didn't God say he/she/it (I'm not being rude by saying that, why should I assume that if there's a god, it's a man?)
God isn't a man by the virtue that any god in a monotheistic religion is the only one so by definition has no Gender. God can't be an ‘it’ either, as any god can't be said to be an object.
English is a funny language, man for instance never used to be gender specific, originally it was more like the word ‘person’, not male or female genders but Human in general.
It's only later with the introduction of more pervasive gender bias that started to push man and men to being gender specific, while keeping its non-gender specific usage to indicate humans as a race.
It’s funny but people seem to think that the gender bias in the language is inherent, that the words used to describe the Human race are inherently masculine, which is actually the wrong way round. They were there already, the gender bias was added.
But to get back on track:
I prefer to simply say God. Rather than say "didn't God say he..." I’d say "didn't God say that God..." which is more correct IMHO as you don't need to qualify it, or perpetuate the gender bias.
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You should never give powers to a leader you like that you’d hate to have given to a leader you fear
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Tom Lehrer = God.
(Hey, I think we also just solved our problem!)
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All the world seems in tune
On a spring afternoon,
When we're poisoning pigeons in the park.
Ev'ry Sunday you'll see
My sweetheart and me,
As we poison the pigeons in the park.
...
And maybe we'll do
In a squirrel or two,
While we're poisoning pigeons in the park.
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No beast so fierce but knows some touch of pity. But I know none, and therefore am no beast.
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Oh the Catholics hate the Protestants, and the Protestants hate the Catholics, and the Hindus hate the Muslims, aaannnnd everybody hates the Jews.
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I don't hate nobody just 'cause of what group they hangs with. I gets annoyed if someone gets in my face.
Nearly everything I know I learned by the grace of others.
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Originally posted by rue:
I don't hate nobody just 'cause of what group they hangs with. I gets annoyed if someone gets in my face.
Nearly everything I know I learned by the grace of others.
Oh, don't worry, I'm not being a total jerk or anything, it's just from a satirical song by the excellently hilarious Tom Lehrer
Ah, sorry for any confusion or offence!
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I'm not sure that 'group' human nouns ('man' is the measure of all things) are necessarily gender neutral. 'Humanity is' or 'humans are' would work as well and is gender neutral, but wasn't selected.
Other languages are funny in that they assign sexes to inanimate objects (la table = the she-table). English has certain shortcomings too. There is no gender neutral generic human singular. So if one doesn't want to say 'he' or 'she', people usually dodge and say 'they'.
My Chinese friends have tried to explain to me the basics of Chinese. Apparently there are no genders, singulars or plurals, past present or future tenses. It is (if I understood right) developed in context. So one might say 'four person go to market yesterday'.
Nearly everything I know I learned by the grace of others.
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I LIKE Tom Lehrer and I thought I knew his songs. Which one is that?
Pollution, poluution, wear a gas mask and veil,
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Rue:
As I understand it many of the Genderised references to people in general were Gender neutral, but they became 'genderised' later on.
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I LIKE Tom Lehrer and I thought I knew his songs. Which one is that?
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