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POSTED BY: SergeantX
UPDATED: Thursday, February 23, 2006 20:38
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THEPISTONENGINE

Thursday, February 23, 2006 12:14 AM

Are you joking? The taxman is as straight forward as a crowbar. Pay extra money for this, exemption for that. If your a contortionist, sign your name upside down with your right toes over your left shoulder to get three extra deductions.

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Originally posted by Sickdude:
And for what it's worth, I'll take the taxman over bankers any day of the week. The taxman plays by pretty straight forward rules, and is only looking for a percentage. The banker makes it up as they go, uses the small (microscopic) print, and wants it all.

"It's a cow."

CHRISTHECYNIC

Thursday, February 23, 2006 4:53 AM

I remember when my dad lost his social security card and we looked up how to get a new one, you needed two forms of ID from a list, more than two of them were easily forgeable, after that you have a legitimate SS card, with which you can replace the two forged IDs with real ones and get whatever you want, passport, whatever.

Congratulations you just created/replaced (depending on how crafty you are) a person, what's more not one of your many IDs is fake, not one has a flaw on it. It's air tight.

We live in a screwed up world.

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What gets me is that Bush wants to allow illegal aliens drivers licenses. If they're Illegal why don't we deport them? Save the licenses for the LEGAL aliens.

NOSADSEVEN

Thursday, February 23, 2006 4:57 AM

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Originally posted by nosadseven:
*...must...resist...real-world...discussions...*

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Originally posted by Kaele:
OK :)

No real world discussions. Wrong thread/forum.

Don't worry - that thought was directed soley at myself, partially because of the former location of the thread, but primarily because I learned long ago that my quality of life is greatly improved when I spend my fansite time appreciatin' Nathan, rather than discussing real world events. 'Course, sometimes I just can't help myself.

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Ain't. We. Just.

CHRISTHECYNIC

Thursday, February 23, 2006 5:05 AM

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Originally posted by nosadseven:
I believe 'the paper saying you could' is called The Constitution, at least in those states that choose to abide by it...

According to the United States Supreme Court the only armaments protected under the Second Amendment are those that can be shown necessary for (or at least helpful to) the upkeep of the State Militia. As there are no State Militias left it would be hard to justify anything under the Second Amendment. Of course most people don't give a damn about the Supreme Court and lesser courts have ruled in different ways.

However one must remember that the word, "Arms," does not mean, "Guns," H-bombs and sharp sticks actually classify as arms just as readily and I have seen few people advocating the right of the common man to own and operate a nuclear weapon. I have also not seen those saying, "We should have arms but not big ones," (the current stance of the NRA) telling us to lay off with the ones that we can kill lots of people with in a short span and go back to rocks and sharp sticks.

It would all be a lot simpler if the thing said, "Citizens have the right to bear guns," but it doesn't. It says the right to bear "arms" with a clause about Militia. No card carrying member of the NRA I know of has claimed that means, "The right to bear all arms regardless of potentials to public safety," and no organization I know of wants a broad reading of that amendment more than the NRA.

DREAMTROVE

Thursday, February 23, 2006 6:11 AM

I hope everyone is agreed on this subject. If anyone supports the national ID card, they're a moron, not because they support it, but because they managed to watch all of Firefly, perhaps several times, without even remotely getting the point.

CITIZEN

Thursday, February 23, 2006 8:58 AM

Tony Blair wants a national ID card in Britian, its not compulsory but if something like 50% pick it up they have a clause to make it so. One of the big hot political topics at the moment over here. Frankly if ID cards come compulsory over here one of two things is going to happen:
I'm emigrating to Australia,
Or
I'm going to prision.

No way I'm carrying war time papers in peace time.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
You should never give powers to a leader you like that you’d hate to have given to a leader you fear

FLETCH2

Thursday, February 23, 2006 9:17 AM

Almost everywhere in Europe has them. In Sweden you can't use a credit card without showing your ID card (kinda like over here in the states with Driver's licences.) In Canada you effecticely have an ID because the card you use to access healthcare has your picture on it.

The fact is that for a lot of transactions you have to be able to verify your identity. You have to do it to drive, to board a plane, certain classes of financial transactions. I don't see why there is so much fuss. In Sweden you can choose not to get the card but if you dont have it, dont expect that you will be able to use a Credit card smoothly.

DREAMTROVE

Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:04 PM

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I'm emigrating to Australia, Or I'm going to prision. No way I'm carrying war time papers in peace time.

Ah for the days when they only registered jews. The problem is of course that this is one small step, in itself of little signifigance, towards a much greater facist goal.

Personally, when I think about big govt. and the comming EUSSR and its new Amerika equiv., I'd rather take my chances with Bin Laden. Lunatics with bombs can be avoided. I go up in the hills, they really won't bother me. It's bad govt. which is going to track you down.

HERO

Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:44 PM

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Originally posted by Chindi:
a time may come when it won't be safe for naughty ppl like us to slip about.. but it ain't this time...

Chindi

Would you lump serial pedophiles into the "naughty people" group? What about those wacky people who strap bombs to themselves?

I've found ID's very useful. They tell us a person's driving record, whether they have outstanding warrants, how many prior DUI's they've had, if they are registered to vote, if the right person is on trial, getting served at bars, cashing a personal check, not to mention my City ID lets me skip the metal detector coming into work.

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FLETCH2

Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:51 PM

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
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I'm emigrating to Australia, Or I'm going to prision. No way I'm carrying war time papers in peace time.

Ah for the days when they only registered jews. The problem is of course that this is one small step, in itself of little signifigance, towards a much greater facist goal.

Personally, when I think about big govt. and the comming EUSSR and its new Amerika equiv., I'd rather take my chances with Bin Laden. Lunatics with bombs can be avoided. I go up in the hills, they really won't bother me. It's bad govt. which is going to track you down.

Oh please!

You already carry an "ID Card" it's just that it's supposed purpose is to prove that you can drive. The problem is that as an ID it isn't that great. So your choices are to let it ride, accept ID theft, undesirables doing Lords know what because it's crap ID or get something better.

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