Serenity strikes a blow for conservatism!
POSTED BY: Blinker
UPDATED: Friday, June 9, 2006 07:31
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You obviously haven't seen many Hollywood films, they often have a more liberal bias.
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No beast so fierce but knows some touch of pity. But I know none, and therefore am no beast.
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PriateNews's Commie-Nazi-Jews made me double post (they really are responcible for everything).
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Everyone likes to see the hero win.
Makes us feel good.
In this big bad world of ours, more often then not, it’s the bad guys who have the last laugh.
I mean, hell, it's always been that way.
My grandpa owned a theater back in the 50's and 60's and he once told me the only sure-fire way to pack out the joint was a John Wayne movie.
A man who's character always stood for what was right and never shot a man in the back.
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It's about a man stripped to his core and bloody who somehow finds the strength to pull himself to his feet, build a family around him and strives to protect it.
Anyone who doesnt hope they have that strength in themselves irrespective of their politics somehow ceased to be human. What makes Mal compelling isn't so much what he believes but that after all he's been through he can still believe in anything at all.
Grace under pressure.
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That would be between 1937 and 1945.
One day.
One mission.
One army of Browncoats.
On June 23rd, we aim to misbehave!
Nathan doesn't know it yet, but I am his one true love! Is that weird? 
(he will believe, he will believe)
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It is interesting how Conservativism and Republicanism have become interchangeable and yet aren't always. As an independent left-leaner.. cause I don't know what else to call myself, I must say I disagree that Serenity is conservative.
Libertarian to an extend - classic state right democrat, maybe - republican, no way - conservative, possibly.
Funny that Joss had a country-wide phone in conference to try and get Kerry elected and Bush oustered.
Joss wrote a complex script - the charecters (for the most part) were quite liberal, their idea of government was small, non-intrusive (very libertarian). Some of their philosophies on government could be conservative - and that's not a bad thing - some conservative ideas a great. Too bad the republican party doesn't think so...
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Will you marry me?
One day.
One mission.
One army of Browncoats.
On June 23rd, we aim to misbehave!
Nathan doesn't know it yet, but I am his one true love! Is that weird?
(he will believe, he will believe)
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Originally posted by Arabikum:
I wish my English would be better, but I try anyway. I believe the Western-Genre itself is pretty pretty conservative.
Normally I stay the heck away from threads with this kind of title -- my reaction is almost always something like "eww, you got your politics all over my fandom. Clean it up!" Some madness possessed me to click this.
Except... this quote, above, I found interesting, mainly in light of having just finished the very best example of a thoughtful Western in literature, The Ox-Bow Incident by William Van Tilburg Clark.
This book is not about "left or right" but it is very much "right or wrong" and how hard it is to choose between them and how much harder it is to act on what you know is right.
For those that don't know the story, it's about a lynching of a suspected rustler and murderer. A small western town, having already had more incidents of rustling than they like, hears of the murder of a prominent rancher's longtime hand, a man they all know, along with the theft of forty head of cattle, and they form a mob to go chase down and hang the killers.
A local shopkeeper, Davies, is profoundly disturbed by the populace's fervor to hang somebody for the crime, and fears that they will (a) hang an innocent man and (b) trample the rule of law in the process. Davies cares deeply about the rule of law and delivers a stirring speech early in the book, planting doubts in the heart of the narrator. Davies convinces him to go get the sheriff and judge to try to stop the mob -- but the sheriff is thirty miles away and the deputy is no better than the leaders of the mob, and Davies' plan backfires when the deputy grants the cloak of authority to the mob. Davies goes with the mob, trying all the while to convince them to bring whoever they find back to town and give them a fair trial.
Davies' opposite number, Tetley, is a former Confederate cavalry officer. Tetley, a real hardcase and definitely a 'man of action', becomes the leader of the mob to whom almost all the men defer. Bad weather - a snowstorm - sets in on the mountain pass. A passing stagecoach tells the mob of seeing a party of three men camped at a fire up the trail, but the mob also knows of a little valley, the Ox-Bow, just off the pass where a cattle drive could take shelter for the night. In the Ox-Bow three men are found - a young man, Martin, who claims to have just moved to the area, a crazy old man and a Mexican who claims not to know English, both of whom work for Martin. The missing cattle are found with them, and Martin claims to have bought them from the rancher, but can't produce a bill of sale. The Mexican turns out to have, without explanation, the gun of the man they believe to have been murdered. Long story short (too late), it all adds up to a lynching, and a fascinating contest of wills between Tetley and Davies for the hearts and minds of the men in the mob, and Tetley wins - the men hang at sunrise.
When the mob comes back into town, they discover that the men they hanged were telling the truth, and that the man they believed dead was very much alive, and that the forty head of cattle were in fact sold by the rancher.
Davies, in a heart-wrenching scene in a room over the saloon, pours out his heart to the narrator and says that he could have, would have, should have stopped Tetley because he knew in their hearts that most of the men were just looking for an excuse not to follow him because they had doubts, but failed at the last because he lacked the courage to act. It would have taken a gun, he said, but at the very last what I felt in my heart was that I was glad that I didn't have one. And so, the angry mob was allowed to kill innocent people.
The Ox-Bow Incident was published in 1940. When asked, late in his life, what he meant to symbolize, Clark said that many people naturally draw the comparison with Nazism and the way it was allowed to grow unchecked and without protest. But what he really intended, he said,
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The success of Mel Gibson’s The Passion of the Christ, and of films like Lord of the Rings, Serenity
Serenity a success? Since when? I don't seem to recall it doing Lord of the Rings numbers.
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