In your darkest moments, what are the temporary ideas you entertain?
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Saturday, February 11, 2006 01:59
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" If nothing we do matters, then all that matters is what we do.
If there's no grand finish, no big win, then the smallest act of kindness is the greatest thing in the world".
Sorry that Star fish story reminded me.
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Well, my sister's a ship... we had a
complicated childhood
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I wear the cheese. It does not wear me.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
When I see nonsensical post like PirateJenny's, I simply remind myself that in a few billion years, our sun will have spent its fuel, begun to die and eventually all that mankind has ever done, has ever seen, thought of, everyone who ever lived, will live ...all of it will be burned to ash, and all that will remain of our existence will be our signals which we beamed out into the 'verse, and a few wayward space probes.
All this bickering, backbiting, infighting is pointless. It will amount to nothing. You can delude yourself that you're " fighting for a better future" all you want. On a cosmic scale, humanity amounts to nothing more than a blink of time. Everything you hold dear, is meaningless.
Now, go take on the day!
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
you know you love my post!!
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Originally posted by piratejenny:
you know you love my post!!
lol, that was a cool response.
Anyway, my darkest fear is to be failure in life. I'm in my mid-20's now, which is young enough to still be optimistic for the future, but old enough to realise that a lot of that optimism may be unfounded and that it's easier to fail at life than to succeed.
I also don't want to get physically disabled in any serious way.
Another dark thought is when I start thinking about how insignificant we all are. I hate to think that in a 1000, 100 or even 20 years people think back about our time in history and think "Oh God, those people were so primitive!". Which they'd probably have good reason to.
No matter what we do or achieve in our lives, most of us will be lucky if they even make it as a footnote in some future history book.
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Originally posted by Khyron:
No matter what we do or achieve in our lives, most of us will be lucky if they even make it as a footnote in some future history book.
But that doesn't matter. You won't be a footnote, but neither will the people who would have read the footnote. No matter how much time passes you're at least as important as everyone else save a negligible few who do get mentioned.
What matters is that everything you do makes a difference now and the people you care about are alive NOW. Not in one hundred years, not in a history book, they are here now. They are here when and where you can make a difference.
Nice how that works isn't it?
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Originally posted by christhecynic:
But that doesn't matter. You won't be a footnote, but neither will the people who would have read the footnote. No matter how much time passes you're at least as important as everyone else save a negligible few who do get mentioned.
What matters is that everything you do makes a difference now and the people you care about are alive NOW. Not in one hundred years, not in a history book, they are here now. They are here when and where you can make a difference.
Nice how that works isn't it?
Well, it seems that posterity is more important to some than it is to others.
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Originally posted by Khyron:
Well, it seems that posterity is more important to some than it is to others.
I guess, I can't really understand it though.
In 100 years we'll all be dead 100 years after that all of those people will be dead, and so on. The history books you refer to will be lost and forgotten, eventually George Washington will either be a totally fictional character (he's well on his way already) or forgotten. Either way the man himself will be forgotten.
Few billion years on and earth is gone, maybe people are on another planet. You think they remember Cicero? Maybe. Washington? Not much of a chance but some. John Locke? He has slightly better odds than Washington. How about Chamberlain? No matter which Chamberlain you're referring to not one has a chance in hell.
Later on those stars explode and those planets are gone. Do we survive? Maybe, but how many people from the year 2000 are remembered? The year 3000? The year 757,539,366,483,883,639,012?
All that not being remembered is saying is that you're exactly like the ones who are remembered except that you succeeded in not being branded a freak and singled out from all others in order to be placed alongside the likes of Nero, Hitler and Stalin for a few hundred or thousand years before you attained that position.
Personally I think I'd rather like not being in the same book as Hitler. I would say I wouldn't mind so much if I got to be the one who killed Hitler, but that would make me Hitler, which is really the point.
Everyone is forgotten, some are just freaks who take a while to get that way, and if you are such a freak you can take comfort in knowing that so long as you are remembered you will occupy a spot not just with the best of your time, but also with the worst. And people often pay attention to the worst more.
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Personally I'd rather be remembered by the living than the ones who may or may not get a chance to be born. Even if it is only for one generation it has more meaning than words on paper can ever manage.
What's the best selling book of all time? The Bible. You think Ahaz really cares all that much that I can quote him here? Or do you think he cared more about his family and friends, whoever they might have been?
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I fear extreme physical suffering. I hope to be able to avoid that, especially near death.
As to the vastness of the universe and the unimportance of it all, I take comfort in knowing it all goes on without me. So all I have to do is consider my life, my decisions, my actions. The arrow of time will not repeat. What I do will change the universe forever, albeit in a small way. I need only decide what I want to do with my time.
The only thing we have is time.
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Originally posted by Fletch2:
The absolute certainty of my own death and the horrific possibility that it may be extruciatingly painfull.
Been there, done that. Died on the operating table, rose out of my body, bouncing off the ceiling, looking down on my lifeless corpse, as the doctor and nurses tried to rescucitate me. Seems someone forgot to turn on the oxygen, since nitrous is apparently the same as carbon monoxide. I was laughing my head off at Death. Perchance that was the Laughing Gas talking? But if that's death, then it's not that bad, especially when you OD on nitrous. But the doc freaked out and I had to go back for multiple amputations, this time w/o nitrous, just a VERY LARGE NEEDLE TO STICK INTO MY SKULL!
I liked it when the Operative terminated the employment of the Doc.

I'm disabled and in pain almost every day by so-called "Gulf War Syndrome" (tested on US prisons before the never-ending war), thanks to Gangsta Govt's sabotaged vaccines. I'm forced to buy my lifesaving drugs from foreign countries, since no doctors in USA are allowed to prescribe antibiotics made-in-USA, as Israeli citizen Michael Chertoff, director of US Dept of Homeland Security, confiscates imported life-saving prescription meds from old people. But at least I don't fear death anymore, after finding out God and/or Evolution invented such a peaceful way to die.
Scary Monsters:
I have a court hearing next week on a traffic citation. It seems my legal research shows that ALL traffic citations in Tennessee are Class C Misdemeanors, and result in max 30 days in prison and max $25,000 fine (perhaps as punishment if you appeal for a jury trial), OR, no chance of jail and a max $50 fine plus $200 court costs (if you roll over and plead guilty to the oxymoron of a "victimless crime"). What is the max penalty if I appeal and lose a jury trial? Is this really a criminal case, using Rules of Criminal Procedure, or is it "breach of civil Driver License contract" under Roman Civil Law and European Napoleanic Code, with Rules of Civil Procedure, which forbid "pleading guilty", with only a 51% Burden of Proof and no Constitutional protections? After 100 hours research and $200 in research costs, plus a $1,000 law library, I still can't figure out those answers. Neither can the lawyers I spoke with. No wonder Big Brother wins 99% of the time, since the rules of the game are classified Top Secret. Catch-22. Checkmate. Dark Thoughts.
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PIRATEJENNY
The BUSH-S Administrations,( Are a Frightmare come to life) the fact that these people are trying to take over the country, and that there is a whole host of sick freak pedophiles running the government
Then I find out my judge in "traffic court" (runaway-slave court) is an alcoholic coke-head, and the "appeals court" judge is a member of the Gay Mafia (Bush Gang's CIA narcoterror cult imports $1-billion/year in cocaine through Blount County since 1980s according to FBI and Blount County courts and newspapers).
Today I tried to file a subpoena decus tecum for the traffic cop to appear in court, and bring with him copies of his videotape, and other files, such as personnel records. Just standard procedure for lawyers in both criminal and civil cases. But the court clerks said that no defendants are allowed the Constitutional right to subpoena witnesses, and no subpoena forms are provided. After a shouting match ensued, letting the clerk know she would be subpoenaed as a witness to tell her story to the judge, my pro se subpoenas were issued. I previously had to subpoena a court clerk to testify as to why he refused to issue my subpoenas to cops with the correct day/year, and after he testified in my case, that court clerk was fired 30 days later for theft and extortion.
My heinous crime was driving safely at 25mph. But Tennessee Highway Patrol profits by selling SPANISH-LANGUAGE driving licenses to 10-million illegal aliens, without bothering to arrest them for deportation.
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Quote:In my view, either we come back to live again in some fashion (preferred theory), or our consciousness becomes nothingness, and nothingness can't mind being nothingness, or we get to be one with God (which would be cool), or we go to Hell. And if I end up in Hell, I'm gonna kick the Devil's ASS on a REGULAR basis, and do endless Buffy quotes to him, like "Wanna see my impression of Ghandi?", "Bored now.", etc.
Originally posted by rue:
What I do will change the universe forever, albeit in a small way. I need only decide what I want to do with my time.
I suspect he don't want me there.

*Free pass outta there for Buffy fans*
Chrisisall
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I did some thinking about the 'afterlife'. I don't want to go to someplace forever. That's suffocating - you never, ever get out. And as for option two, this life is taxing enough. I don't necessarily want to come back and do it again, and again, and again. So I'm pretty OK with option three - nothingness.
All we have is time.
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