Out of Gas or out of mind?
POSTED BY: ManiacNumberOne
UPDATED: Monday, April 14, 2003 14:23
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Originally posted by Noocyte:
Hey now, SARAHETC! Can you give a ref. for that gun being part of the mule's equipment? Is there some point in an ep which I failed to notice, like someone futzing with or checking or stowing the piece?
Reason I ask, is that this could put to bed the question of where River got the ordnance in OiS...though I suppose that wouldn't wash (har-har), since everyone ELSE was so puzzled about where she got it.
Still, strains the mind, don't it.
It do. And I have to reference. That's why I said "spackled" since we were talking about how good writing lets you spackle things in.
In fact, I'll give a ref. supporting that Mal put it there specifically. In TJ, Wash uses the Mule to run that guy over. If there were a gun on it, probably he would've just used that right? Of course, there you could say, "Well, we don't know to what extent Wash digs guns." But, in WS, he certainly didn't seem to have a problem with them.
As for River finding it, that very well could be. Obviously Mal doesn't reholster the weapon as he's bleeding and suffocating. But it's a long way from OoG to OiS. Perhaps he leaves it there just in case something like that ever happens again?
But then, he seems very worked up that the gun River gets is Jayne's hardware. Is Jayne's line: "I don't leave my guns laying around, Mal, and I don't leave 'em loaded" his way of saying "not my gun." Like, is it or is it not his gun.
But I agree with Maniac too. Mal's is shocked, certainly, but he also seems surprised to see the gun there. Like, "Opportunity!"
Mind thoroughly strained.
I'm a dying breed who still believes, haunted by American dreams. ---Neko Case
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Originally posted by Archer:
Contrast Mal's handling of the situation with, say, Picard's.
Instead of roughing Wash up and getting him to do his job, he would have felt his pain and sent the nearest convenient teenager in to take over the helm.
Then he would have held at least three extended conferences before Kaylee could come up with the proper technobabble solution.
I thought about that last night, too! Great mind, etc.
I was thinking about Kaylee specifically and her contrast to Geordi or Data. Geordi would never say "Sometimes a thing gets broke can't be fixed." Never! But in FF, it's the truth. and for humans, it's the truth. I mean, without getting to existential or maudlin, sometimes in life things get broke can't be fixed.
And yeah, I agree with the teenager remark, though Wash was kinda acting like a teenager there for a minute. Not that I blame him! He's right on. Maybe his "teenage pranks" remark was specific. Plus, you know, nobody would give Picard that kinda lip. To me, that reinforces the humanity of the situation.
I'm a dying breed who still believes, haunted by American dreams. ---Neko Case
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This was one of the few elements I had trouble with at first, not calling the crew back first. That's what I love about Firefly fans is the "spackle" which you have made sense of with the various explanations why he would not have done that first, and knowing (well not actually knowing Joss) but he probably thought this out before hand. Yes, in my opinion he's that damn good.
As for the Trek side, of course they would never say it could'nt be fixed. They have replicators and all sorts of things that let's be honest, are dreams and fantasies. Not to say we'll never be able to produce them in the future, but that's what I really love about Firefly, it's basically us with a ship that can travel in space and what would happen after a civil war, no Vulcans to guide us or dominion to fight with. Of course, you know they will send some flunkie to try and fix the problem because a character on Trek could never die unless you don't know him. (unlike a Whedon series) On one other Trek note, Voyager has really started to lose my interest. I think I first saw the link to an article on here that they were putting more sex and violence in the show to try and boost ratings.
As for the gun, I personally think Mal did think about the situation beforehand and was "somewhat ready" but could have done more, but, once again, how straight was he thinking by then?
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"Nothing good comes easy, Klaus."
"Nothing bad comes easy, either. I find it far more annoying when the universe makes you work for your damnation. I'd prefer it just gave it to me, save me the effort."
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I watched that episode last night! I also watched Jaynetown. OoG almost made me cry...almost. It's sooo sad. It's like the sinking of the Titanic or something. And when he woke up and everyone was with him, it was almost too good to be true that it seemed like they were all in Heaven or something. Anyway, I didn't think that calling them back last was weird for previously mentioned reasons. He's no mechanic. Maybe he wouldn't have been able to get the piece in right and by the time Kaylee got back, he'd be dead.
"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?" -Wash
"I told him to sit down," -Simon
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