Jewel Staite SPOILER (edit)

POSTED BY: Hauger
UPDATED: Saturday, January 7, 2006 15:47
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CAPERCAILLIE

Saturday, January 7, 2006 1:43 AM

Hey Optimus,

How about a little "optimistic" outlook here? Gee, and I thought it was content that counted. You didn't have to rain on my parade just to get your rant out. Did you read the comment or just feel the need to nitpick it?

You, well "josh" darn it, you really bummed me out. Sorry that I am so clearly a neophyte here. And there I was....thinking that my opinion might actually be interesting to someone....

"I could easily forgive [your] pride, if [you] had not mortified mine." - Jean, I mean, Jane Austin, oops Austen

CAPERCAILLIE

Saturday, January 7, 2006 1:46 AM

"I could easily forgive his pride, if he had not mortified mine."

....sort of loses its punch when I screwed up on the first go-round...

ZOID

Saturday, January 7, 2006 2:19 AM

Hauger wrote:

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Like I said, it's all good.

Maybe it's the writing I have a problem with, more than her. How can an actor deliver 'twixt my nethers' and sound conversational?

Mal, similarly, seems to slog his way through some of the Fireflific gobbledy-gook.

Again, it's worth it, since the story is worth hearing. But some of the lines are either too odd or too much a challenge for these actors.

You must be kidding. Or else spoiling for trouble.

We, hereabouts, enjoy the countrified way our BDHs and their cohorts/adversaries speak. We love Badger's (Mark Sheppard) Cockney. And who among us will forget, "Here lies my beloved Zoe, my autumn flower, somewhat less attractive now that she's all corpse-ified and gross..."

...Or any of a thousand lines you see quoted in people's sigs around here. And you've got problems with the dialogue?!? And you start off by attacking Jewel Staite's Kaylee, one of the universally beloved characters on the show? Not to mention that Jewel Staite -- the youngest of the cast members, btw -- is a genuinely sweet person, as well as a damfine actress.

Maybe you should pick a different topic before things get ugly.

Incredulously,

zoid
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CAPTKAR

Saturday, January 7, 2006 2:29 AM

umm...

First hes new so no need to attack him, namely because when someones new they dont realize that Kaylee is the universal sweetheart

Second hes just voicing his opinion

Other than that i would have to say (not trying to chime in on the Kaylee support group and further toss away a new fan) Kaylee acts that way because thats how her character is. She is naturally brutely honest, and shes not supposed to seem like the smooth talker because most of the time shes trying to impress Simon which makes her nervous. Kinda the whole schoolgirl crush thing.

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Siklis Pakem Parabellum "If you want peace prepare for war" (Latin)

ZOID

Saturday, January 7, 2006 2:35 AM

capercaillie wrote:

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"I could easily forgive his pride, if he had not mortified mine."

....sort of loses its punch when I screwed up on the first go-round...

*pssst!* See the link labeled "Edit" at the bottom of your posts? If you click on it, you can go back and edit your words and spelling.

Everyone was new here, once upon a time. Welcome. "Joss" means 'luck' in Chinese, so I've been led to believe...

Respectfully,

zoid
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"I aim to misbehave." -Capt. Mal Reynolds, Serenity, a.k.a. 'the BDBOF'

NDRAGE85

Saturday, January 7, 2006 2:48 AM

I love Jewel as Kaylee, i think she does a great job, but you're entitled to your opinion. I think Kaylee is an essential character. like it says in the DVDs, she's what makes them a family. She really does give that family aspect. Take her out of the picture and you lose some of that. she's like the sweet innocent child (although we all know she has her wild and naughty side).

ZOID

Saturday, January 7, 2006 3:05 AM

CaptKar:

I've got no problem with 'new'. But when 'new' starts a thread of his very own, first attacking Jewel's acting, then attacking Joss' dialogue, then saying 'It's all good' because it's probably a combination of Joss' bad writing and the entire cast's deficient acting skills...

Sounds like an insult to me. It may have been a genuine and heartfelt opinion on his part, as opposed to just trying to see if he could call folks names and not get called out for it. Either way -- whether it's his opinion or a sly attempt to besmirch good people's abilities -- he's wrong.

Either that or everyone here but myself agrees with his 'opinion' that the dialogue and/or acting were subpar. He -- and those that agree with/defend him -- can have their opinion, and I can strongly and vociferously disagree with them. No movie is perfect, because it's created by humans. There's no cause to slander the creator -- or especially, single out a cast member -- for something that rings a little flat to a few, who otherwise call themselves fans.

Point is, Serenity ain't the Mona Lisa. Then again, neither were any of my favorite movies. Go to IMDb and look at the 'Goofs' section for any movie, and you'll find the same is true for your faves, too.

As for "attacking" him: It's only 'playing nice' if it's a two-way street...

Respectfully,

zoid
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MUTT999

Saturday, January 7, 2006 3:20 AM

I can't believe this thread. Some "newbie" comes on this site and puts down Jewel and we don't stick his ass in troll country? I really hope Jewel never sees this crap!

"That's the buffet table....."

JAYTEE

Saturday, January 7, 2006 3:57 AM

Just my opinion but I think the whole cast of Firefly are a very talented group of actors. They are also some of the most down to earth people in Hollywood. Almost every one of them has posted here or on the Browncoats board. They go to fan conventions not just to promote the movie but because they love the fans. Nathan has posted some great stuff on the old board and it shows his real character. He's not stuffy and too cool for the fans like some actors are. I've seen Jewel on other shows as well. One episode of Stargate Atlantis and a few years back on DaVinci's Inquest. She's got excellent acting ability and anyone that doesn't think so should STOP DRINKING THE BONG WATER! She's also one of the prettiest women in Hollywood in my book. Love those eyes. Summer Glau? Who could possibly deny that she's a great actor? What grace! What an awesome performance. Put Jewel's sweet portrayal of optimism and kindness as Kaylee, Summer's troubled tormented soul as River and Nathan's consumate portrayal of the conflicted hollowed Mal and you've got one hell of a cast of quality actors. Oh, yeah, let's not forget Adam Baldwin, Alan Tudyk, Sean Maher and Gina Torres. They all shine! Adam was great in Next of Kin and Full Metal Jacket too.

Jaytee

OPTIMUS1998

Saturday, January 7, 2006 1:44 PM

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Originally posted by capercaillie:
Hey Optimus,

How about a little "optimistic" outlook here? Gee, and I thought it was content that counted. You didn't have to rain on my parade just to get your rant out. Did you read the comment or just feel the need to nitpick it?

You, well "josh" darn it, you really bummed me out. Sorry that I am so clearly a neophyte here. And there I was....thinking that my opinion might actually be interesting to someone....

"I could easily forgive [your] pride, if [you] had not mortified mine." - Jean, I mean, Jane Austin, oops Austen

sorry if i at offended your bummed you out, but you will notice i didn't pick on your sentiments just spelling. hence the " i know it's nit-picky thing" i agree with you whole hartedly. but like i said in the post the Joss/ Josh thing its... in my mind you might as well be saying Steve. it's a low grade OCD thing. I apologise...

again, i didn't mean to bum you, or anything of the sort.

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