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Serenity on HD in March!

POSTED BY: SimonWho
UPDATED: Monday, January 9, 2006 19:46
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Friday, January 6, 2006 2:56 AM

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Neither are "backwards compatible". DVD and HD/Blu use different lasers, which is one of the reasons that they can store more.


God, I sure hope they do, because I don't exactly want my 85 DVDs' Box sets to go to waste and be a thing of the past after only about 4 years of collecting.

If that happens, I'll be extremely pissed off.

As far as the whole XBOX/HD DVD and PS3/BlueRay thing is going to go, I think I'll stick with Microsoft (I have a lot of games for XBOX that I still want to play in the future). Even though I'm Canadian, and I'd rather support Bill Gates over that lying scumbag that runs Sony who can only find himself finger pointing and calling Microsoft incompetent because MS doesn't kiss his ass.

(hmmm. sounds a lot like the political situation between Canada's and the US's governments right now. hmmm......)


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Friday, January 6, 2006 6:27 AM

NUCKLES87,

You said: "
Anyway, I'm willing to wait five years for holographic memory. It's storage capacity will put Blu Ray to shame."

Blu Ray IS holographic memory.

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Friday, January 6, 2006 4:20 PM

Several sites have reported lately that PS3 will be $499 at release (like Microsoft, Sony will be taking a loss on the new system for the first 1-2 years), which is about what you'd pay for a 360 if you want the hard drive, and eventually the HD drive, which will likely be at least $100 (going strictly on rumor and previose sales models).

I was seriously considering getting a 360, as I really like my Xbox, but this add-on drive killed my desire for it. They were in such a rush to beat Sony out the door thay they released a system with an obsolete drive. If I want to upgrade a machine just to play games, I'll stick to my PC.

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Friday, January 6, 2006 4:22 PM

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Originally posted by Ruxton:
NUCKLES87,

You said: "
Anyway, I'm willing to wait five years for holographic memory. It's storage capacity will put Blu Ray to shame."

Blu Ray IS holographic memory.



Not really. Holographic disks are a new format, just announced a couple of weeks ago (by Toshiba I think, though I could be wrong). There were a lot of jokes on tech sites about Blu-Ray and HD-DVD already being obsolete before their launch.

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Friday, January 6, 2006 7:30 PM


mycroftxxx wrote:

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Does anyone know if DirecTV or one of the major premium movie channels are planning to broadcast Serenity on their HD channel? If/when they do I'll grab it on my DirecTivoHD and NEVER erase that sucker even though it'll take a big chunk of my hard drive!

Well, either HBO or Showtime have bought the rights to show the movie on cable, I'm not sure which, and am unmoved to research it. In either case, both of those providers have HD channels on my Cox digital cable. So, I'll pray that they offer it in HD -- which cable premiere should roughly coincide with the HD-DVD release announced -- then record it on my DVR, then to hard drive via USB.

Another question I have is: If BlueRay and HD-DVD players won't play DVDs, that likewise means they won't play DVD+/-R/W's either, right? Wot a pain in the azz! Still, I can save it to my external USB 2.0 HDD, connected to my digital box, and watch it on my Philips 60" HDTV.

Note: Remember when you had to choose between +RW and -RW because they were incompatible? Now, just about every burner is +/-RW. Not saying that the BlueRay and HD-DVD war will ever go that particular compromise route, but there is a precedent...

Another note: While folk are already starting to declare the BlueRay the winner in the format wars -- small-time player Microsoft notwithstanding -- let's all remember that Sony gave us the Betamax, too, that it was considered technically superior to VHS, and that it got it's butt handed to it.

So, BlueRay, Macintosh, Betamax and Edsels for all the Don Quixotes of the world...



Respectfully,

zoid

P.S.
I despise overly proprietary equipment. A thousand PC manufacturers can build IBM-compatible components; only Apple can supply Mac components, at inflated prices they demand based on whimsy. Several hundred manufacturers still offer VHS players; Sony was the only manufacturer of Betamax and set their pricing higher, because they were the sole proprieter. Edsels were just 'hi-tech' white elephants. Sony BlueRay... Dong-ma?
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Friday, January 6, 2006 8:11 PM

According to several sources I've read, the technology itself isn't backwards compatible, but players will become available which will be able to support multiple formats:

http://www.blu-ray.com/info/

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Originally posted by jinsaku:
Neither are "backwards compatible". DVD and HD/Blu use different lasers, which is one of the reasons that they can store more.

It will be based on the player to support both, but with DVD laser components being so cheap now, and companies would immediately lose a large amount of sales if they *didn't* support DVDs, I can assume all HD/Blu players will support DVDs as well.

-- Chris



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Friday, January 6, 2006 8:16 PM

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Originally posted by jerryt:
I'll eventually be getting a Hi-Def unit, but probably not until the format wars between Blueray and the HD-DVD are over. Sigh, VHS/Betamax all over again. That, and the price will drop on the units once they are out for awhile.

Now I just have to get my big screen TV. Just waiting for the true 1080p units to hit. Hopefully in 06.

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And if the war never settles then you can bet your ass you will see some kind of "hybrid" player that can play them both. You know - with both laser systems. Its bound to come.

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Friday, January 6, 2006 8:47 PM

Replacements may come even sooner... Iomega has a patent on something called A0-DVDs which hold 40-100 times as much as conventional DVDs (i.e. perhaps as much as 90GB per side...!)...

http://www.techworld.com/storage/features/index.cfm?featureID=2072
http://www.newscientist.com/channel/mech-tech/nanotechnology/dn7432

and there are other formats on the way too... nanotechnology developments have lead to claims of devices capable of multi-terabyte storage at the atomic level... all on 3.5 inch discs...

http://www.gizmag.com/go/3134/

Of course, much of this speculative technology is more bark than bite, but then... whoever would have thought that computers would ever need more than 640k of RAM...?

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Originally posted by nuckles87:
The war of the formats is pointless. DVDs have barely had six years on the market. Its to early for thim to be replaced.

The only reason you'd need HD DVD or Blu-Ray is if you have an HD set.The current HD-TV market is miniscule, to small to adopt a new format.

By 2009, Blu-Ray and HD-DVD will be made obsolete by Holographic storage.

Still, I'm personally pro HD DVD. Its more practical then Blu Ray. It is backwards compatible with DVDs after all. So I won't need to rebuy my current DVD collection should a new format become the new format of choice.




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Friday, January 6, 2006 8:49 PM

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Originally posted by Storymark:
Several sites have reported lately that PS3 will be $499 at release.



That's all speculation so far. All anyone knows is that Sony's president has said people should expect to pay "a premium price."

According to today's Associated Press article out of CES, the first standalone Blu-ray players this year will cost $1,800. I find it very hard to believe Sony would sell one (which oh-by-the-way is also a PS3) for $500.

Meanwhile the same article says the first HD-DVD players will be $400. Quite a gap as far as cost of the technology.

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Friday, January 6, 2006 9:05 PM

I can see it now:
"Granpa Chrisisall, why you still playing those old 'DVDs'?
Get a Holo-room interactive unit!"
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Old-timer Chrisisall

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