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Thursday, December 15, 2005 4:02 AM

Anime isn't cheap, I'll tell you that much. First season of Inuyasha: $100. That was my sole present on my birthday from my grandparents.

Inuyasha is pretty intellegent. Although it isn't really real, you can pick up some Japanese culture and history. It's very cool.

Kikyou isn't my favorite character. I feel a bit sorry for her, but she's too mopey.

Kagome, on the other hand, is really strong. Anyone see the episode, "Just Kikyou and Kagome in a Cave" (or something like that). It's one of the latter seasons that I don't have on DVD. Anyways, Kagome and Kikyou are trapped inside of a cave, which turns out to be a demon's belly. They need to find a way out of there. Kikyou hasn't had her fill of souls, so she's really weak. Kagome could leave her, run away and get away safely. Plus then Inuyasha would be free. But no. Kagome thinks of people other than her ownself, and thinks of how devastated Inuyasha would be, and she wouldn't be able to live with herself when doing this. So she helps her own enemy in getting free.

I think that's a major show of Kagome's character. She's always thinking of others, and is very sweet.

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Thursday, December 15, 2005 5:07 AM

Cybersnark - you have some really good points about the whole Inuyasha/Kikyo thing. I had never really thought of it that way before. And Kagome is really strong, but she also gets very upset when Inuyasha continually picks Kikyo over her. Which is why I get so mad at Inuyasha sometimes - I'm like, "Can't you see you're hurting Kagome?"

But you can tell that Inuyasha really does love Kagome. He gets jealous every time Koga comes around, and when

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Kagome is almost killed by the Band of Seven and he thinks she's dead, he gets really devastated. Then she's all right, and he cries. It's so sweet.



Workerofevil - I forgot that Shippo makes mention of his mother once! Now that you've said that, I can remember exactly what episode that's in. But yeah, that's about the only reference ever made to one of the elusive second parents. I also have all the Inuyasha eps, which we will not speak of. Like I was really gonna wait till they all came out over here.

Serenyty - Yup, anime is very expensive. $100 a crack for both seasons of Inuyasha, but it's worth it! I went to HMV the other day and was gonna pick up some other anime, but it was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyy too expensive. I remember that ep with Kikyo and Kagome in the cave. I always think she should leave her there. LOL. Which shows you what kind of a person I am. But then I always admire Kagome because she doesn't.


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Thursday, December 15, 2005 7:55 AM

Inuyasha is as deep and dark and mystical as any fan of sci-fi/fantasy could hope for. The characters actually have depth and go through various difficulties to (usually) come out as stronger and wiser individuals.It's kind of like life in a nutshell, sansthe otherworldly elements, tragic heroism and the demon-bashing action .
The only character I can't stand is Kikyo. I've always felt that Kagome is just so much more superior in every existing aspect- a strong independant female character who doesn't always sit around wailing for her man to come save her.
I look at Kikyo and cannot even begin to fathom what Inuyasha sees in her.
But then again, I guess the love triangle is one of the things that keeps me so interested in the show.
By the way Cybersnark. How's that Roswell-Conspiracies list coming along?



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Thursday, December 15, 2005 2:37 PM

I think Inuyasha doesn't realize how much he's hurting Kagome, at first. He later realizes what he's doing but he just can't make the final break from Kikyo. (Remember his line: "Can't I have both?") Kikyo was such an important part of his past. She was his first love. He was willing to give up his dreams for her. It's really hard to just walk away from that. Of course, he also can't choose Kikyo over Kagome. He's saved Kagome at the cost of Kikyo a few times knowing full well how that would hurt Kikyo. I of course agree with everyone that he should move on from Kikyo and be with Kagome, but I can understand why it's so hard for him to do. Frankly, I don't think he'll ever actually work through his feelings and make that final decision without spending a great deal of thought on it. Inuyasha is not the type to do that when there's something physical he could be doing (such as hunting Naraku). The love triangle will never be solved until Naraku is finally gone. We have to wait until that happens before we can get our resolution.

Sesshomaru kicks some serious *ss!

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Thursday, December 15, 2005 3:37 PM

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But you can tell that Inuyasha really does love Kagome. He gets jealous every time Koga comes around,

I think there's more to the InuYasha/Koga feud than simple jealousy. There's envy. Koga is everything InuYasha wants to be --a full-blooded demon, ruler of his pack, powerful, cunning, and charismatic. This is why InuYasha was after the Shikon jewel in the first place.

I think by now (I'm in the Band of Seven arc right now), InuYasha knows he's in no danger of losing Kagome to wolf-boy. Trouble is he can't really understand why (well, he knows why, but can't admit it to himself or he'd have to acknowledge that his goal of becoming a full demon is a waste of effort, and he can't accept that); in demon society (and, let's face it, humans too), might makes right. Koga's got everything InuYasha doesn't have, and Kagome's still not falling for him.

I think the pivotal moment for these two is when InuYasha is in his human form, and reveals himself to Koga. Bear in mind that his human side is his greatest shame --every weakness he hates made manifest. Normally, he spent the night of the new moon hiding. Safe until dawn returns his demon strength. But he's not scared anymore. Not ashamed of his nature --he no longer feels the need to prove his dominance over Koga.

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Kagome is almost killed by the Band of Seven and he thinks she's dead, he gets really devastated. Then she's all right, and he cries. It's so sweet.


And don't forget the murderous rage he went on in the second movie. That scene where he's perched outside of Kaguya's castle, eyes burning, Tetsusaiga glinting hungrily in the moonlight. . .

The entire universe wouldn't be big enough to hide from him.

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Thursday, December 15, 2005 3:49 PM

Yeah, I'd have to agree with you that Inuyasha will probably never get over Kikyo at least until Naraku is gone. Which is annoying.

Sesshomaru does indeed kick *ss. But his character puzzles me. He's supposed to be like this bad*ss human-hating demon, yet he saved Rin's life and continues to allow Rin to constantly hang around with him. Not only that, but he keeps protecting Rin even though it causes him to lose face in front of other demons. And even though he claims he wants to kill Inuyasha, he doesn't take any opportunity to do so. Anyone have thoughts on that?

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Thursday, December 15, 2005 4:10 PM

As always, Cybersnark, you have some excellent points. I've noticed that Inuyasha is getting less jealous of Koga as time goes by. He doesn't get nearly as upset at Koga's appearances as he used to the first few times. I think he's also envious of the fact that Koga can so publicly (and loudly) declare his feelings for Kagome while Inuyasha himself can barely admit to liking her without blushing. However, I don't think Koga's ever gonna stop trying. At least, not until Kagome fully shoots him down.

Yeah, I remember that scene in the second movie. It was incredible. Of course, the whole second movie is great.

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And the fact that Inuyasha wears the locket that Kagome gives him even after declaring he didn't want it is very telling.



I'd have to say the second movie is my favorite of the movies so far. Although I haven't seen the fourth one yet.

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Thursday, December 15, 2005 6:01 PM

I'm holding off on watching the third one until YTV's weekly airings get past the Band of Seven arc (I'm enjoying it, and don't want to break the inertia). Plus I wanna see it where it "fits" into continuity.

Sesshoumaru is rapidly becoming my favourite demon. Despite his propaganda, I never pegged him as "human-hating" so much as considering humans to be about as important as ants. He doesn't so much attack out of wrath, but swats them aside as he passes without breaking stride. Only time he's ever gone out of his way was when he had a new weapon (or arm) that he wanted to test out.

Remember how he & Rin first met. Rin showed him compassion when he was injured. As a demon, this would have been totally alien to him. Then, when he found her corpse, he simply repaid the debt. Also, he was wondering what Tenseiga's true powers were --he knew that it could heal wounds, but he didn't know if it could go far enough to raise the dead.

Plus, he admits to himself that he's not sure why he did it. It could be that Tenseiga's exerting an influence on him (which seems to be what he thinks), or it could be something subconscious bubbling to the surface.

The Rin/Sesshoumaru relationship has evolved. At first, it was just Sesshy repaying a debt, then it turned into a kind of master/pet relationship, with Rin as a stray pup that followed him around (an ironic reversal; the Dog-demon has a pet human).

Also, it's worth noting that Sesshoumaru represents the Feudal State, he's a product of his time. In fact, by his own standards, he's remarkably reasonable. As much as he hates InuYasha, he needs an excuse before attacking --Tetsusaiga. As the elder, legitimate son (even disregarding being a Prince), his brother should obey him. It's basic filial responsibility. Instead, InuYasha hacks off his arm. In Feudal terms, a peasant saying "no" to a Prince is usually grounds for summary execution. Lopping bodyparts off said Prince is probably much worse.

See, Sesshoumaru doesn't just want InuYasha dead. He wants him defeated. Broken. He wants the half-breed to come crawling to him, begging forgiveness for his sin (at which point, Sesshy will be as compassionate as demon Law allows, and will grant a swift and merciful death).

This is why Sesshoumaru saves InuYasha the first time he goes berserker. Sesshoumaru needs InuYasha to remain sane. If InuYasha dies, Sesshoumaru won't get his victory. As cool as he plays it, Sesshy's got as many "issues" as InuYasha himself.

Sesshoumaru is also a Prince without a kingdom (thanks to the half-breed getting their father killed --yet another reason to hate InuYasha). Jaken follows him out of fear and awe, both of which (Sesshoumaru thinks) are to be expected from one's inferiors. Rin, OTOH, follows out of love and trust. Brave as she is, she needs Sesshoumaru to protect her, and that's also a new experience for him.

Perhaps this was part of Father's macchiavellian plan (spelled out by his choice of which swords to bequeath: Sesshoumaru gets the "safety razor," while InuYasha gets the superweapon).

Sesshoumaru thinks that Nobility (in terms of Kingly Virtue) flows from strength of arms (which is why he wants InuYasha's sword), while Inu no Taisho obviously believed differently (as Myoga tells us, he died defending humans). Despite himself, Sesshoumaru is slowly becoming the Prince he thought he was.

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Thursday, December 15, 2005 6:36 PM

I can see you have lots of thoughts on this.

I guess Sesshy (love that) never actually says he hates humans. I think it's Inuyasha that says so, numerous times. But nothing is ever really shown to the contrary.

He is getting more and more fond of Rin, you can see it happening. Must be that unconditional child's love. Or maybe dog demons really do have a weakness for humans, as they speculate in the first movie. It's also indicated (by Jinenji, I think) that Rin is very similiar to Kagome. Interesting parallels in the brothers, perhaps?

I also noticed that in spite of the fact Sesshy really doesn't like Inuyasha, he expects him to be there. When Sesshy is attacked by those cat-like demons fifty years ago, he expected Inuyasha to fight by his side. However, at this point, Inuyasha was sealed to a tree and unable to help him. Could this have been the beginning of an even deeper resentment because Inuyasha wasn't there when Sessy needed him, due to his half-demon failings? (Or what Sesshy sees as Inuyasha's failings?)

You'll really enjoy the 3rd movie when you watch it, Cybersnark. It gives tons more insight into the Sesshy/Inuyasha dynamic and their father's past.

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Friday, December 16, 2005 1:13 AM

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I also noticed that in spite of the fact Sesshy really doesn't like Inuyasha, he expects him to be there. When Sesshy is attacked by those cat-like demons fifty years ago, he expected Inuyasha to fight by his side. However, at this point, Inuyasha was sealed to a tree and unable to help him. Could this have been the beginning of an even deeper resentment because Inuyasha wasn't there when Sessy needed him, due to his half-demon failings? (Or what Sesshy sees as Inuyasha's failings?)



Way I see it, InuYasha's got three strikes against him already:

1. It was defending InuYasha that got their father killed.
2. InuYasha lives as a symbol of their father's affair with a mortal.
3. InuYasha inherited the Tetsusaiga, while all Sesshoumaru got was this dumb-ass stick sounds like its raini-- uh, I mean the Tenseiga.

Plus, Sesshoumaru probably has an inferiority complex: he's smart enough to have figured out the signs that say Father loved InuYasha better.

I heard someone once wondering why Sesshoumaru didn't kill InuYasha while he was pinned to the tree, but then it dawned on me: Sesshoumaru would've thought that InuYasha knew where Tetsusaiga was. If he'd died there, Sesshoumaru would never have found it.

(If anything, he should be grateful to Kagome for waking InuYasha up.)

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