Just Curious About Something I Noticed...
POSTED BY: RiveR6213
UPDATED: Sunday, December 4, 2005 00:56
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Yaphet Kotto is a great actor. He seems to be doing more TV and less movies lately. He was great in Live and Let Die, Alien and the Running Man. I haven't seen Andre Brauer in too many things but I liked him in City of Angels and his performance was really good. One of my favorite black actors is Keith David. He's in Armageddon, Platoon and a several other movies.
Jaytee
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Quote:
Originally posted by vermin:
With regard to the black/white issue,
I don't think anybody disagrees with what you're saying, but the point of the discussion wasn't a black/white thing or that blacks got cast as bad guys.
The point was that dark-skinned blacks were generally (pretty much exclusively) "bad" and light-skinned blacks generally (pretty much exclusively) "good", and there wasn't an issue with it, it was just something that River6312 pointed out. But then some people made it into an issue by saying "You people are making an issue out of this! Can't you see past colour!?". Sometimes people like to feel self-righteous by labelling other people as narrow-minded without taking the time to see what the point of the discussion actually is, and that's where this thread kind of lost the plot. Somewhere along the line the whole black/white thing got mixed into this, which was off topic, but there you go. Guess I should have seen it coming.
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Seems like utter nonsense to me.
The best actors got the roles, and who gives a stuff what race they are?
Making Simon and River Chinese for the sake of homogeneity is tokenism of the first water. Go down that road, and pretty soon you'll be replacing Jayne because the Inuit are seriously unrepresented.
River would inevitably have been a (yawn) martial arts expert. I prefer the laying waste to everything in sight approach myself. Far more visceral than the sterile Martial Law stuff.
Simon being nerdy and rubbish at pulling would just have just reduced him to another Harry Kim. Horrible thought.
I'd have to say everyone is pretty much perfect as they are.
For the sake of political correctness, would you honestly sacrifice the chance of seeing Sean, Summer and everyone else being just completely groovy on every possible level? I certainly wouldn't.
G
The temptation to do sig. over and over in 8 languages is strong, but happily for you, not irresistible.
(I could do it, but the only text handy is from the council, describing the bin collection schedule over Christmas.)
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Originally posted by Gixxer:
Making Simon and River Chinese for the sake of homogeneity is tokenism of the first water. Go down that road, and pretty soon you'll be replacing Jayne because the Inuit are seriously unrepresented.
Oh God, where was it ever said that Simon and River should be Chinese because of political correctness!? It was said that they should be Chinese because 'verse is supposed to have a lot of Chinese influence and also, presumably, more than a few Chinese people in it. It's the apparent lack of Chinese people in the 'verse, not the lack of Chinese people in the cast, that's bothering some people.
But you and some other people missed the point of the discussion and I don't think you care what the actual point is, so never mind.
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Spoken like the true, assured-filled just,arrogance of the common citizens of The Earth-That-Was.
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Oops. Seem to have struck a nerve. Sorry.
Let me rephrase.
It's fiction. It's a TV Show. It's not worth getting worked up about. (OK, it is, but you know what I mean...)
It was, in my opinion, pretty much perfect as it was, and I honestly can't think of any recasting or changes that wouldn't have detracted from it.
Honestly, that's it. Everything. All. Nothing more. My panties remain unbunched, even by grammar or malapropism.
G
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I don't think it is. The people who were behind casting left it open. So anybody no matter what race or creed they were could have read for the Firefly cast we love and know.
Actually there are chinese people, just not in the main cast. Joss kind of wanted at least one in there, but he felt that the gang read better.
Plus there's Gunn from Angel who's dark skin and good. Despite his faults. I understand them, I dunno if anybody else does. Oh and there's the Principal from Buffy season 7.
Joss is a total sweet heart (judging from interviews and how he handles fans) so I don't think he's one to do a bigoted thing. But, it's a good point to bring up to him to see his views on it.
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Gixxer said:
Oops. Seem to have struck a nerve. Sorry.
Let me rephrase.
It's fiction. It's a TV Show. It's not worth getting worked up about. (OK, it is, but you know what I mean...)
It was, in my opinion, pretty much perfect as it was, and I honestly can't think of any recasting or changes that wouldn't have detracted from it.
Honestly, that's it. Everything. All. Nothing more. My panties remain unbunched, even by grammar or malapropism.
G
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Worked up about? lol! No nerves were struck in the slightest, and there is no reason to get upset about anything; Its just opinions and observations, nothing more than that, and in this here 'verse, there are no absolutes (except for death and taxes) and I suppose one's perspective is formed by which side of the Plaza one chooses to view life from.
Your opinion, which I do respect, just didnt go down too well with the saki I was sampling when I wrote that post.
Christmas is gonna be so expensive this year.
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That's just great. I don't do falling out with anyone. Or at least not deliberate like.
Christmas may be expensive, but at least it's going to be easier than usual. No more of that "What'll I get them?" stress. And you can leave it to the 24th as well before you venture out into shopping hell.
(Previous lazy man's surefire choices were "The Big Lebowski" or the Firth / Ehle "Pride and Prejudice.")
G
It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in possession of a good fortune, must be in want of a wife. It is similarly acknowledged that should he wish to retain good title to said fortune he should never kiss 'em on the mouth.
Jayne Austen
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