reasons why Fox isn't selling FF rights

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UPDATED: Thursday, November 24, 2005 03:31
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CASSIUS

Tuesday, November 22, 2005 3:10 PM

I didn't read the whole thread, so forgive me if this has been said:

Fox own Firefly, right?
And Universal own Serenity?

So why can't Joss just make a 'Serenity' TV series with Universal's backing?

Noah's ark is a problem.

PHILYBURKHILL

Tuesday, November 22, 2005 3:32 PM

Fox just keep selling the DVDs, all the merchandise like STs so they are making a lot of money off FireFly. They see no reason to sell the rights. Unfortunately, I don't think we'll ever see our BDH in live action format again

20THCENTFOXHATER

Tuesday, November 22, 2005 4:06 PM

I think we should just leave it at this: Firefly WILL NOT come back. Sorry, but it's true. Serenity was just the final ripple in the wave (besides the upcoming books). As much as I would LOVE this to COME BACK, it won't; because the FOX network are just a bunch of bitter, stupid, right-wing, capitalist-loving assholes. They are like variuos people in history saying, "Well, the world will be better off with this (insert idea/object). But being that we came up with it and can't get it to work, it's just better off to prevent those who want to use it, develop it and benefit from it from getting it because it may make us look bad". In a way it is kind of cool that there is that REMOTE chance of it coming back, but if it doesn't we will always have what is here, and we will always be able to ponder what could have been. Hell, who doesn't like a good mystery?

"I aim to misbehave."

BLUE786

Tuesday, November 22, 2005 5:58 PM

I respectfully disagree with anyone who says Firefly will never come back.

After all, in the end, it's all about the money.

To answer some questions:

Universal owns the rights to the Serenity movie, but I'm sure that just changing the name of the series is not enough to get around the legal issues

I think Fox will want to sell the rights at some point. The DVD's can only sell so well, for so long.

As far as actors go, again, it all comes down to money. None of the actors in Firefly are A-list (yet). They're all working actors who need to pay the bills. If they all enjoyed working on it for the first season, I'm sure they would all want to come back to it.

I gotta admit, it is a long shot to bring a series like this back. But it has been done before.

So, where does that leave all us Browncoats? What can we do to help? I think the most important thing is to continue the viral marketing. Keep attracting new Browncoats. Loan out your Firefly DVD's. Loan out your copy of Serenity when you get it. Talk up the series and movie with friends and on message boards. If all the networks pay attention to are the numbers, then lets show them the numbers.

CITIZEN

Tuesday, November 22, 2005 6:05 PM

In the words of the great philospher Homer Simpson:
"It's cause they're stupid, that's why everybody does everything!"

More insane ramblings by the people who brought
Remember, the ice caps aren't melting, the water is being liberated.

DAISYDANA

Tuesday, November 22, 2005 6:36 PM

**Possible Spoiler Info**

Voider,

In the future, you might wanna add whether not there is a spoiler in your posts. Since I haven't been able to see it, I have been avoiding all the "Serenity" posts. When I found out about "the death" I was ticked at myself but managed to console myself with the fact that I didn't know how it happened. Now, that little suprise is gone as well.

"Good night. Don't let the spacebugs bite!"
- Kaylee

JAYTEE

Tuesday, November 22, 2005 7:02 PM

The real reason Fox won't sell the Firefly rights is #4.

#4) The majority shareholder in Fox, Rupert Murdoch is in league with the Devil. Not only that but he is going to "The Special Hell" and Rupert doesn't talk in theatres.

Jaytee

XEROGRAVITY

Tuesday, November 22, 2005 9:40 PM

I've long since been confused to hell and back again. Threads like this throw me for a loop every time. I never know what to believe anymore.

I do believe that

(1) the actors will (and already are) moving on,
(2) Whedon moved on a long time ago, and
(3) Fox and Universal both profit from movie/show, and are golfing buddies at the end of the day.

By the time they decide to bring it back, it'll be too late. It'll probably be under a different director, different cast, different screenwriting talent, etc. The only thing that will remain the same will be the title of the show and the golf clubs.

XG

No such thing as gravity. The "Earth-that-was" just sucks.

CORNCOBROB

Tuesday, November 22, 2005 10:56 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by JayTee:
The real reason Fox won't sell the Firefly rights is #4.

#4) The majority shareholder in Fox, Rupert Murdoch is in league with the Devil. Not only that but he is going to "The Special Hell" and Rupert doesn't talk in theatres.

Jaytee

are you implying Rupert Murdoch is a nonce?

The best-laid plans of mice and men often go awry

KWICKO

Thursday, November 24, 2005 3:31 AM

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Now, Fox is making money off of SciFi running the series.
I'm sure Fox is going to milk this as much as they can.
However, all of these sales are coming from 15 episodes and one movie. After awhile, there is going to be nothing left to milk. Everyone who wanted to see the series and the movie will have seen it. The DVD's won't be selling anymore.
I would seem, that at that point, it would be in Fox's best interest to license someone like SciFi to continue the series.

You're right - all the money is coming from a half-season on DVD and a movie that is also soon to be on DVD. At some point that money WILL stop, or slow to a trickle, which is why it would make sense for Fox to LICENSE the rights to Firefly instead of outright selling the rights. Every time a new movie gets made in the series, sales of Firefly and Serenity DVD sets will jump a bit, for a while, and if Fox licensed the rights to another network (say, SciFi) to start making new episodes of the show, that would drive DVD sales of Firefly and Serenity as well.

Don't look for Fox to sell the rights, but they'd be stupid not to at least look into licensing them. They'd take a percentage of the box office, PLUS a percentage of DVD sales and rentals, pay-per-view, or what have you, PLUS they'd likely still retain rights (again, these could be licensed as well) to the merchandise.

It makes business sense for them to license the rights for a share of the take, especially if they have no plans to continue the Firefly 'verse on their own. It's a case of another studio or network saying to Fox, "Look... do you want to let us use this 'verse or not? Do you want SOME money in your hand, or do you want NO money from this? 'Cause if you don't let us take Firefly back into the black, you'll get NO money for it." Studios want money. Oscars and Emmies are nice, but Fox doesn't really seem to care about those; they'd rather have butts in the seats and money in their hand, as their cancellation of "Arrested Development" so clearly illustrates...

Mike

Grrrrrr. Arrrrgghhh.

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