'Youths' in Paris continue to riot.
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Franck Cannarozzo, deputy mayor of Aulnay-sous-Bois added:
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"We see among the rioters kids of 13 to 15, who are swept along, who are encouraged to take all the risks, and the ringleaders, who are used to creating trouble, terrorise everyone and don't want to stop." it could have been easily mistaken for a scene from the Palestinian intifada.
http://news.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=2200912005
In France:
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Reda Ameuroud was epelled for exhorting fellow Muslims to wage holy war in speeches at a mosque in Paris.
Abdelhamid Aissaoui, an Algerian imam convicted for an attempted attack on a train was deported on July 23.
Pascal Mailhos told Le Monde last month that 20 French mosques are run by radical Islamic groups and 1,600 prayer halls are being watched.
Religion has everything to do about the current rioting in France. The immigrant youth are being used, as usual, by radical muslim preachers and clerics.
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Agreed, and "ringleaders" read "Al Qaeda"
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It reminds of the 4 days of rioting we had in Belfast during the summer. An impoverished Christian underclass angry at the lack of jobs and the poverty they live in and the supposed discrimation against them. The burning of cars, petrol bombing of the police and army in a British city could have quite easily have been mistaken for the sort of trouble one sees in the Middle East.
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the rolling nightly riots are being organized via the Internet and mobile phones, officials have pointed the finger at drug traffickers and Islamist militants.
KLA - Kosovo runs drugs into Europe and is tied to muslim terror groups.
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Six youths were arrested in a raid on a building south of Paris, during which more than 100 bottles, gallons of petrol and hoods for hiding rioters' faces were also found.
This is organised behaviour, not some random collection of young men tossing rocks.
http://portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/11/06/ufr
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Originally posted by MalBadLatin:
This is organised behaviour, not some random collection of young men tossing rocks.
On a semi-related side note, this is part of the reason humanity often tends to make me sick. 5 guys hatch a plan to break stuff, and start stirring up trouble in front of 10 individuals. Instead of those 10 individuals saying, "let's stop this while we can," they instead say, "what do those 5 know that I don't," and without thought start breaking stuff too. Mob mentality is going to kill us all one day. I forget who said it (I think it was Einstein), but "I don't know how WW3 will be fought, but I know WW4 will be fought with sticks and stones."
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He looked bigger when I couldn't see him.
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Sorry about that. I was really ticked off.
I think the internet is mostly a left of center haven. I have a theory on why that is.
This more or less mimics the experience that I had in my own life.
Your first political encouters in life are pretty much of acceptance. For me it was Nixon good, Ford good Carter good. No real political slant there.
Then comes the teen rebellion, which basically amounts to authority bad. So for me that became, Regan bad.
Then I went to college where I was subjected to an organized left-wing brainwashing. Part of this definitely influenced me, and part of it seemed like politics in a can. I was torn between the common left-wing view of "the right is just conservative because it's dumb." and "maybe I'm only getting hald the story here.
So then population splits, and you either start examining things and try to make up your own mind, or you accept the politics you're surrounded by.
For me, I analyzed the policies of George H. W. Bush, and they made a lot of sense to me. Then I analyzed the policies of Bill Clinton and they didn't make a lot of sense to me.
Then I went back historically and tried to figure out the difference, and why some people would be left or right. I came to the conclusion that 80% of the population is sheep. the country is about 40% non-thinking liberal, 40% non-thinking conservative, 10% intentional thinking liberal, and 10% intentional thinking conservative.
Moreover, the split followed like this:
Educated people were liberal, because the education system is liberally dominated, and so eveidence is given to you in college to support liberal arguments and knock down conservative ones, but often no counter arguments are given, or the counter arguments are intentionally far weaker.
Conservatives tend to be people with a lot of real life experience, older people, and people who work in business or rural farmers, etc. These are people who have often seen a lot of these leftist ideas in action and seen them fail, and prefer things a little more old fashioned and independent, and not as idea-guided.
This understanding led me to be a conservative. But I'm a philosophical conservative. I am not supporting someone just because they oppose the left, but because they support conservative values. I am not a believer in think-tank planned utopian ideological social structures, I'm a fan of tried and true social structures that I'm pretty familiar with from my studying of history, one of the few places where, though in low level courses liberal dominance is strong, it doesn't hold up the more you learn.
The internet is populated mostly by the young educated, college students making up the single largest block, closely followed by rebellious teens, and so it logically follows that general liberalism is strong, and anti-GOP is also strong online.
So presently, I can't support the president or more importantly his think tankers because I know their liberal background, and I see them display the same liberal fallacies. I agree with them on many points, but I would be much happier if this administration were a lot more like that of his father. I support the take down of the administration because I see it as coming from Bush Sr. style administration loyalists, traditional republicans, and I see it as aiming to replace the neo-con thinktank planning circle with a more traditional conservative circle.
Back to Al Qaeda and company.
I generally agree with most of what you've posted here.
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And it is moving west into Germany and the rest of Europe.
I would say it's moving north.
These problems seem to be showing up primarily whereever european society meets muslim society, geographically, which is mostly N/S. So the jihad is crawling up from Africa through western europe, from asia minor through the balkans, and from the caucuses through russia.
I also think that on the whole, western europe is riddled with liberal ideologues who are driving the economy down, and who are ignoring the jihadist problem because recognizing
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I refuse to engage in the political blame game, Islamic terror is what I oppose. I don't care what political stripe people wear, it's when they refuse to face what is currently happening throughout the world. Right now Islam is engaged in most of all the global conflicts, from the Phillipines to India and former Soviet satellite states.
It's not the bloody Catholics or Mormons cutting off heads, forcing women to wear head coverings, honour killing women, performing clitorectomies on young female girls, ripping down 2000 year old religious symbols, attacking cruise ships off the Barbary Coast or mass killing people in football stadiums.
I am revolted by this. Period. End of story.
I don't give a rats arse if some young kid claims he can't find a job, he has no right to take others property by fraud or force. He has no right to kill old feeble ladies or shoot at riot police and firemen. He has no right to fly a jet into a skyscraper, bomb a tourist bar or murder girls walking to school.
Drop the Clinton-Bush-Blair hate meme and come together to oppose whats really wrong. Proclaiming a political belief converts no one to the real cause.
PS: I'll add this
Thatcher, Reagan, Bush1&2, Blair, Clinton have all failed to protect us from Radical Islamofascism, each one of these people added a part to the puzzle and now we are confronted by the finished product.
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A police chief, Frederic Aureal, said his officers were encountering an unprecedented hostility from gangs, which he described as prepared, structured and armed. People have attacked us with picks, petanque balls and Molotov cocktails".
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20051106/wl_afp/franceriots_051106181914;_
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I couldn't figure out what petanque balls are, but they seem to be like Bocce balls.. but metal ;D
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Quote:I think there's a deeper reason than the college kid demographic. I think the internet itself, the so-called "information super-highway" is leftist by nature, because intellectual freedom is fundamentally anti-authoritarian. Silence only serves the status quo. Discourse fundamentally destablizes entrenched ideology. Where there is freedom of thought, there is liberality. There will never be a rightwing Woodward & Bernstein. "News is only what they don't want you to know, everything else is advertising."
Originally posted by dreamtrove:
I think the internet is mostly a left of center haven. I have a theory on why that is.
HKCavalier
Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
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Originally posted by HKCavalier:
Silence only serves the status quo.
The current print and broadcast media status quo is center left. NYT LAT Le Monde Morgenbladet Die Zeit SMH are a few examples ranging from Europe to Oceana.
http://www.acage.org/articles/?id=0103
The media’s reaction? First, it was silence.
...In the hopes that the riots will quickly quell themselves and will retain a scale small enough to ignore them, as it has happened in the past, World’s most renowned media outlets fell into collective fit of amnesia...
... as they realised that sweeping the issue under the rug is not an option anymore, as the riots spread and assumed a scale too vast to ignore...
... have filled their news stories with relentless attacks against the ‘forced integration of immigrants’ and exclusive citations of the Muslims’ points of view...
...the British Broadcasting Corporation has simply decided to avoid mentioning the religious affiliation of the protesters altogether....
Same with AP ALP.
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