Firefly = TV series: then, now, and forever...
POSTED BY: Elghin
UPDATED: Monday, October 24, 2005 06:29
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Okay, okay!!
I didnt know that Joss did all of the things you mentioned above; i was just upset by the whole thing. Keep in mind I've only been a fan for less than 2 weeks.
I got caught up in the moment okay; am I forgiven? Its just that the tv show is so good, and I love it so much, and the movie Serenity is also very good; i don't know why some people don't like it.
Serenity was my 1st exposer to the Firefly 'verse, and I loved the movie, but as I was watching it, I started to get the feeling that there were things in it that I was supposed to know and didnt, which is why I googled it when i got home and found out serenity was from a tv show called Firefly.
I ran out and bought the DVD set and then i spent a whole day watching it, and I loved it to the point where I watched it again, and again, and again.
I went back to the movie theater and watched Serenity 4 more times, and completly understood everything because of having watched the tv shows.
I bought the book, I bought the soundtrack, I bought 4 additional, Firefly the Complete Series DVDs for some of my friends. I told everyone at my job and in my life about Serenity/Firefly. I bought tickets to Serenity for over 40 people that I know, so I guess I'm doing my part.
None of my friends or people I know EVER seen me excited about anything. You have to understand, it takes a lot to get me fired up, and when I do, the something that I'm fired up about is worth being fired up about.
I guess I just love a good story and Firefly delivered.
I was just mad/angry/homicidal that this wonderful 'verse that I happened into by accident, was never going to be again, and I want more....do you hear me? I want MORE!
So thanks for clearing the Joss issue up with me. It appears that he tried with all of his might to make us and himself happy getting this wonderful show to us.
Now its time for me to start a nightmare, letter writing campaign to Universal, and maybe also send FOX some "I hate you" emails for them being so stupid and all.
Wish me luck.
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Quote:I understand, I went a little overboard in my response. It's just, one of the things that makes being a browncoat so great is the close and constant contact between the fans and Joss & the Big Damn Heroes (the cast).
I didnt know that Joss did all of the things you mentioned above; i was just upset by the whole thing.
As for letter writing, hate mail towards FOX probably does more harm than good. If you want, write the letter, but don't send it. You'll feel good just having written it.
When it comes to getting more from this 'verse, whether more movies or another great series (trying desperately to stay on-topic), it all comes down to how well the BDM does. And with US theaters dropping it and some (perhaps many) international marketing opting for a direct-to-DVD release, it looks like the last part of the battle will be fought on DVD. So, everyone should try and recruit as many folks you can to buy the DVD.
If the bean counters think there's an audience, then we might get somewhere. More movies are probably more likely than another TV series, but who knows? Uni might decide there's a market, but that a series would be more cost-effective than a sequel. Joss's movie career is taking off, but he's juggled things before. If he can find a decent show runner (Tim Minear?), he could do it. But it all depends on how the Big Damn Movie does on DVD.
EDITED TO ADD: Oh, and in case someone hasn't said it already, welcome to the board, RiveR6213. Glad to have another browncoat on board.
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SPOILER!
Yes, people really should put up spoiler alerts. I haven't seen the movie yet and I feel kind of fucked over. I already learned about Wash before, and now Book as well. I'm still looking forward though, I have no doubt the movie will be awesome and just like Firefly, something worth seeing over and over again. As far as the TV series goes, I feel that's kind of over given that things happen in this movie that would normally progress during 1 or 2 seasons, so jumping back in to a new show after this would just be disruptive of the course that's been taken with the movie. So after this I think I'll be looking forward to the "trilogy" being completed rather than a renewal of the show.
And a lot of you negative people (excuse the hippie phrase, lack of vocabulary) should stop your whining, at least you've seen the movie. So what if they died. Is it painful? I bet it is, I felt fucking heartbroken when I found out and I imagine it will be worse watching it. But that will only be a testament to the strength of the series and Joss as a writer. Stop whining and go out and see the movie again or support it in any way possible. I think all of us here can agree, no matter if we've seen the movie or not, that we want another one. And if you didn't like the movie, then you should support it anyway because there are still 7 BDH left and you wanna see what happens to them, right!?
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Originally posted by Elghin:
So asking me or telling me to "get over it" won't do anything for me. You have every right to agree or disagree with anytying I say. And I reserve the right to feel less than happy about one or two things I didn't like about the movie.
Lastly, please don't hi-jack this thread.
You're going to holler at me to let people say whatever they want, and then in the same breath tell me that I can't say what I want 'cause it would hijack your precious thread? You're all manner of welcome to your opinion, just like me. But I am, too. And complaining about the movie is just that, no matter what angle it comes from.
That said, I'll leave your thread be.
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Overboard? Not at all!
I've only being onboard with Firefly for about a month now, just saw the movie for the second time and suffice to say I missed all the details between cancellation and movie.
If anything, what you posted was INCREDIBLY usefull information to me, i've never heard it.
I've got to admit, i'm so very bitter about the ending to Serenity, but i'm keeping it bottled up because posting my feelings would just get me abused and such...
Nevertheless, i'm doing whatever I can to bring Firefly back to our TV screens. I just...can't believe how FOX is handling this. Almost ready to just swear obscenities 'till I collapse :P
Good work Joss! you have our support.
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Originally posted by RiveR6213:
Okay, okay!!
I didnt know that Joss did all of the things you mentioned above; i was just upset by the whole thing. Keep in mind I've only been a fan for less than 2 weeks
First: Welcome to Fireflyfans! It is great to see new fans of our beloved Firefly and the new BDM
Second: all is really NOT lost, there will be more comic books to tide us over until Universal decides (in 2-3 years) that it is time for the Big Damn Sequal....patience is a thing we Browncoats have had to embrace.
Third: if you like reading archived threads...I would suggest that you would like to get to know Joss better by the way he interacts w/his fans
Here is the Archive of his past posts at Whedonesque:
http://whedonesque.com/user/13
and over at the Universal board (if you need to join use this link):
http://browncoats.serenitymovie.com/serenity/?fuseaction=tools.invlink
&u=embers&linkID=36
they also have a log of Joss Whedon's past posts here:
http://browncoats.serenitymovie.com/serenity/index.html
I can assure you that Joss Whedon loves his ship and crew, and fought long and hard to get the movie made, and will not rest until a sequel is made (of course the 'not resting' part will also involve making 'Wonder Woman' and 'Goners'...but eventually it WILL mean making the next BDM).
'Serenity' was made because of Joss' love and hard work...
BTW did you see the River Tam Session videos? Follow the link in my signiture...
and again, welcome.
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watch the R. Tam Session vids: http://www.hittarivertam.nu/
and buy the 'Serenity' comics published by Dark Horse!
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Originally posted by Causal:Quote:
Originally posted by Elghin:
Lastly, please don't hi-jack this thread.
That said, I'll leave your thread be.
well I won't (let it be)...
Elghin, you post at a public board then everyone else at that board has the right to post THEIR opinions and thoughts...
and if the thread morphs a bit because there are a lot of new people here who do things that can NOT be over looked (like getting the creator's name wrong) then you should just get over it...
you want to keep your thread w/your opinions only?
then get your own site.
otherwise, welcome...we are always happy to have new people discover Firefly and Serenity,
and we enjoy some lively debates/arguments/ and occassional brawls...
(and a lot of silliness)
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watch the R. Tam Session vids: http://www.hittarivertam.nu/
and buy the 'Serenity' comics published by Dark Horse!
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Originally posted by embers:Quote:
Originally posted by Causal:Quote:
Originally posted by Elghin:
Lastly, please don't hi-jack this thread.
That said, I'll leave your thread be.
well I won't (let it be)...
Elghin, you post at a public board then everyone else at that board has the right to post THEIR opinions and thoughts...
and if the thread morphs a bit because there are a lot of new people here who do things that can NOT be over looked (like getting the creator's name wrong) then you should just get over it...
you want to keep your thread w/your opinions only?
then get your own site.
otherwise, welcome...we are always happy to have new people discover Firefly and Serenity,
and we enjoy some lively debates/arguments/ and occassional brawls...
(and a lot of silliness)!
Damn. You are my hero all over the place.
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Originally posted by StakeTheLurk:
Message before the film at the pre-screenings
be with the fans?):(excerpt)Quote:
Hi, my name is Joss Whedon.
the story should end there, but it doesn't, because the people who made the show and the people who saw the show (which is...roughly...the same number of people) fell in love with it a little bit...too much to let it go, too much to lay down arms when the battle looked pretty much lost. In Hollywood, people like that are called 'unrealistic' ... 'quixotic' ... 'obsessive'.
In my world, they're called 'Browncoats'.
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Well boys and girls and boys dressed as girls and girls dressed as Kaylee, the time is almost upon us.
You guys are the fuel in the engine, the Fire in the Fly, the weird green stuff coming out of Serenity's butt. (Hmmm. Forget that last one. I'm a little bit out of control here.)
Everyone needs something to keep them going. Mal has his ship. Zoe has her integrity. Jayne has Vera. And I've got you guys.
But if you claim he ignored the fans, well, the evidence flies in your face my friend.
Thanks stake!
Hadn't seen some of this before, and I realyl enjoyed it.
Always there with the info and the (sometimes pointy) but insightful, well stated comment, and the whizz-bang ability to scoop stuff out of the void and plop it here for us. I really appreciate your steady presence and efforts to keep us all in the light.
Things involving the computer fill me with a childlike terror. Now, if it were a nice ogre or some such, I'd be more in my element.NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Quote:You're quite welcome. Always nice to feel appreciated.
Thanks stake!
And I do try to keep those "pointy" comments to a minimum, looks like it's worked so far.I didn't realize when I posted it how many people would enjoy seeing all those Jossome quotes in one place, but I'm glad they have. Embers has posted some nice links, too. If you haven't already, be sure to check out Joss' user profile over on Whedonesque, it's a screech.
To stay on topic for elghin, Tired Old Reaver has posted an interesting thread on the BDM's profit margins (which will be key in getting the studio interested in a sequel or a revival of the series): http://fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=14225
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