Serenity mixed review
POSTED BY: dreamtrove
UPDATED: Saturday, October 22, 2005 16:21
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I hate to have to agree with you but I was dissapointed in Serenity the Movie, I just thought is Joss was going to make a movie he should have made a Movie, I don't know what in the hell I was watching but it wasn't Firefly.
Simion, wasn't acting very Simion like and I think that annoyed me the most, he was alot more agressive, and Book and Wash dying did not sit well with me, I kept asking why, although I did like the interacation between Zoey and Jayne. The operative guy just seemed like they were trying to do an immitation of Early.
I thought the Reavers should have been more chilling and scary, and the whole thing with the Reavers seem to be lacking something, I had always suspected that the Alliance had something to do with the Reavers..but everything just seem to be rushed
Besides all that, I did enjoy the moveie , and I realized that Joss made this Movie for the fans more than anything firefly was left unfinished and I think he wanted to bring some closure to it, and he did that for himself and the fans, most of all I just loved seeing all my beloved charactors back doing what they do. I just wish Firefly could have continued as a series.
I'm still pissed that it was cancelled , but what can you exspect from a network like Fox
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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
These things don't really bug me that much, I'd rather have an awesome movie with minor flaws than a perfect film that was utterly uninteresting. But they do hurt the film.
That's the beautiful thing about living in a free country--we get to disagree. It would pointless to argue my original points any further, cause they're made now. One thing I do have to say is that I' extremely sad about the division that is taking place in the fandom between Firefly fans and Firefly+Serenity fans. It grieves me that we can't be united in our support of the 'verse anymore.
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I wish I had a magical wish-granting plank.
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Don't worry Jen, you don't have to agree with me, I wasn't disappointed, I was just nitpicking.
I think people are being way too roug on Fox, who, as I've pointed out before, has produced Everything Joss has ever done. I know this because at the end of ever ep of every Joss show, regardless of where it aired, it says "Fox Television" just after it says "Mutant Enemy."
I think that we should take it the way Joss does, which is an asshole AT Fox, is responsible.
Over all, it was about as awesome as could be hope. If there could be one more thing I would have liked the movie to have that it didn't, I agree it would be more up close and personal with the Reavers, and more scary reavers. Zombies aren't nearly as scary as an enemy who can outwit you. All that reavers need is a little River aptitude. It's not to say to make them "brains" a chark or a croc can outwit you simply because it's a more experienced predator, neither one is remotely smart on a global scale.
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Casual, I think there is a point, because Joss and company may see this stuff.
In a way, I fear that idea. I would hate to think that the degree of upset here about Wash's death would cause Joss to be less likely to kill off characters in the future.
But little nitpicking is worth doing, because the little flaws kept non-fans from becoming fans.
That was my best correlation of observation. Non-fans were more pushed away by possible cheese, and thus weren't drawn in.
Also, suggestions of possible additions are worth making.
Objectively, I really enjoyed the Matrix, but even if there had never been a show called firefly, Serenity would still be a better film than the Matrix. But the Matrix does some clever film tricks.
1. There is way too much combat in the Matrix. I mean for a sci-fi flick, there's really no justification for a large number of fistfights. In a realistic story, the situation would just almost never come up. But it drew the audience in.
Serenity's combat scenes get cut short. The amount of combat is not exaggerated, but also, it's understated. Once we get the point "there's a combat here," then Joss leaves to show us something else. This may be efficient storytelling, but it's hardly going to draw anyone in.
Combat ups the stakes, it's exciting and it's going to change the emotional state of the viewer. Fear of Reaver, for example, if limited for those not already fans because in their first scene, the actual reaver combat is on screen for maybe 15 seconds, whereas the silly cartoon chase lasts 3 min or more.
A solid three minutes of reavers tearing people up might be overkill, but a minute and a half of wanton destructon would probably be far more effective.
Same goes for River's fight scene later on. Most people seem to agree it was the film's high point. But it get's intercut with a much less interesting - ie. more stock hollywood fare - fight scene between Mal and the Operative. I didn't hate that scene, but I've seen several hundred like it. It could have been straight out of Dr. No, or many other action films in the last 40 years.
The fight with river was something new. It was dances with axes.
More time on Miranda would have been excellent, it would have made the newbies feel motivated to kick the alliance's butt should it have one. But instead they were apathetic about it. They didn't have the Flan's hatred from the alliance.
Another one, more time with Book would have made them care if he died. We did, well I didn't, but my friend Will did, because we'd been with him for a while. The newbies laughed.
This is never good. People shouldn't laugh when a major character gets killed. But they didn't get a chance to know him, and he died in a stereotypical hollywood way, which might have been an homage to westerns, but the combination made the tragedy comical.
All of these are things which don't help bring in fans. To support the show it really needs a following of at least 2 million, and to be comfortably not cancelled, it would be nice to have that number up to about 5 million. I estimate it has about 1 million right now.
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