It CAN'T be true!!! *major movie spoilers*
POSTED BY: engineangel
UPDATED: Sunday, March 26, 2006 06:58
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i was in the middle of "that's my bab-" when it happened. i cried and hated the movie for the next 12 hrs. but then i talked to jacqui. she explained it ALL! and for that she gets to go to the 'special' heaven.
find her!
shakespeare: more words than God.
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Well… part of the reason we love these characters are because they are written to be humans. They aren’t super, although most have some skill in fighting, or at least lots of firearms… and things that go boom. What we really love about these characters are that they’re human and a family. And sadly, families have losses. Wash still went down a hero. He finished doing the impossible. Not everyone walks out of the impossible. For that, there is 95% of dumb Hollywood action flicks. We love these characters, because we believe they may or may not get out of the impossible. People die for no reason. Some trip on shoelace. Most die by no fault of their own. Whedon made these characters human, which is one of the many reasons we love them. Wash was my favorite character and I’ll miss him.
But on the sneak preview I watched, and the 2 times this weekend, each time people gasped out when Wash and Book died. Each time I saw it, it hurt. And, even though I accidentally ran into a spoiler that mentioned Wash would die months ago (still upset about reading that spoiler) it still shocked it me. I don’t see those reactions in Star Wars and most other movies. I daresay, Titanic is the only one that comes the closest. There may be more, but the point is, most movies don’t make you believe in a character.
As for Book’s death, while I didn’t like seeing him go, I liked that he died not telling his secret or past. To me… that’s realistic. People die with secrets all the time.
… But seldom do secret die with them.
The family we’ve watch will continue to grow and adapt like most every family does. It might be a rough road at first, but it’s the only one to take to a smoother paved road. If you want a movie where the people do the impossible and everyone keeps walking away happy, or die and return to life, go watch the Star Trek. Joss isn’t going to insult us with that. Neither is he afraid to muck up a system, even his own system.
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Once, just once, I want things to go according to
the gorram plan!
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Originally posted by reallykaylee:
i was in the middle of "that's my bab-" when it happened. i cried and hated the movie for the next 12 hrs.
You and me both sister! But now after talking to some people and thinking it over, I'm just more anxious to get a sequel so I can see what happens next and in what fashion he returns(hopefully the hawian shirt fassion). The more I think about it the better the movie gets. Can't wait to see it again. It still sucks and we'll all miss him but hey, we're still flying. That's Enough.
-e
P.S.It'd be cool if Haken created a subpage(like the blue sun room) that is a mermorial to Wash and Book.
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Based on the final scene, I'd say River's gonna be the new pilot (assuming she stays as lucid as she appears). Of course, she is psychic, and Wash spent a lot of time in that cockpit. If there's likely to be a ghost, that's where she'd find it.
I can already see the scene in the sequel:
Wash is giving River flying lessons --warning her about the wobbly starbord engine (don't trust it in heavy manoeuvres, just shift thrust to port-side). River is talking back (a two-way conversation).
Camera swings away, as Mal enters, leading a client and avowing the professional skills of his expert crew. River laughs at one of Wash's jokes, the camera swings back to see River chattering and carrying on with empty air.
The client looks confused, Mal goes "huh" and quickly turns the very wealthy and respectable client around and leads him away from the crazy girl.
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We applied the cortical electrodes but were unable to get a neural reaction from either patient.
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My friends and I counted down the days and could not wait till the movie came out. That night we went to the theater and watched the movie without blinking. We were extremely sadden by the death of Wash. He was by far all our favorite character. One of us wrote this about Wash.
“This is the crappy town where you’re a hero. We love everything about your from your plastic dinosaurs to your leaf-like piloting. Yes, we even love those Hawaiian shirts and that mustache. You and Zoë were perfect for each other. I remember once in flight school, you were laconic…. You’re the shiniest pilot in all the ‘verse.”
We loved the movie and thought it was wonderfully crafted and loved the wit and seriousness of the movie. I hope it turned many people who were not fans of the show into fans. There were a couple of things that made me upset and that were the setup of the world and characters. In the movie you did not realize that Inara was a companion and that Inara and Mal were not in a relationship before this movie. I guess to some it wasn’t important, but me being a fan of the show, it was important to me. I hope that Joss will make a sequel because it would make up for killing Wash and Book. I am one of biggest fan of Joss and watch all his shows and know all the things that he likes and that is what my last statement pertains too. My last statement is that Joss likes sex robots a little too much and he likes to kill people when they are the happiest.
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I figured it out. Wash won't come back as a ghost or anything. He'll come back as Mr. Universe's sex bot.
River has a subconscious power to transfer other people's consciousness. She didn't realize she did it but she sent Wash's consciousness into the sex bot. Wash is lost and confused in his new body but will slowly emerg and have to find his way back to Serenity. It will be a wacky tale of adventure. I see Washbot and Serenity barely missing each other 3 or 4 times. Then in the end Wash gets back and Zoe has already moved on and we're sad.
Luckily I've never been able to predict what Joss will do next. So, don't get too worried about that storyline for Serenity 2.
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There was another post that I had read on another site that tried to come up with some logical reason for Wash NOT to be dead. Now it may be a bit of a stretch for some, but it gave me enough hope that I plan to see the movie another 10 times. Was too heartbroken to go back after seeing the 'SCENE' initially.
Basically, after he was impaled, everyone left the ship in a hurry (fleeing Reavers and the like). Now, Reavers would not mess with Wash as he's already 'dead'. So he stays pinned there for a bit. Who happens upon the scene? Why the Alliance, hot on the Reavers (and the crew's) tail! We allready know from the 'Message' episode that there is some pretty radical medical technology available (organ replacement/reconstruction and the like), plus the human brain retains a charge for a good long while after the body is declared to be dead. They could have rescued his body during this time and evaced him out for interogation or something (not sure why myself, but I'm sure Joss could come up with a compelling reason). They may have informed the Operative, or they may not. After he was discovered to not be the Alliance's man anymore, that tidbit of information could/would have been kept from him.
I HOPE that we'll see Wash back in some form or another. I also trust Mr. Whedon to not change the significance of his death or make it seem cheesy. He may or may not be the same man we remember, but I hope he turns up in Episode 2: The Search for Wash.
Keep on flyin'
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Originally posted by Barclay:
But how many times have you seen a movie, everyone gets away scot free, or one character has a tragic death, like Book's, full of obvious meaning and purpose, and think "Yeah, like that's real."
Exactly!
That's why Wash's death was so significant. Whedon is brilliant at creating realistic, deep, human characters. Book's death was dramatic, but... well, drama isn't always realistic. We had gradual time to prepare.
Wash died in the heat of battle. His death was sudden, harsh, and real. That's why fans are reacting to it this way. You get no time to prepare for his death, you get no time afterwards to console yourself, unless you want to join him in the afterlife.
One person in the theater I was in just yelled out "no!" when that happened. It's all you can do when someone dies so... realistically.
Keep in mind... Book is my favourite character, always has been, always will be. But I managed to handle his death much better simply because I could see it within a fictitious environment. It was harder to do that with Wash. That, and, by that point, I was scared for the rest of the crew. I was on edge the most when Kaylee got those two darts to the neck, because I knew I couldn't handle another death at that point. And I'm usually fine with movie deaths!
Wash's death was shocking... but I was surprised at my own reaction to it. I mean, the only movies I've gotten choked up at in the past have been based on history (Schindler's List and Amistad, to be specific). This was the first time a completely fictional character's passing got to me this way.
And that's why I've only seen the movie once. It'll be hard to handle it a second time 'til I'm ready. KF
~Kaiser Farooque
ZOE: Preacher, don’t the Bible have some pretty specific things to say about killing?
BOOK: Quite specific. It is, however, somewhat fuzzier on the subject of kneecaps...
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I figure anyone who has gotten to this point in the thread is not scared of spoilers, so I'm not going to do anything funky to this post.
I hurt when Wash died also, but I want to tell this story to put it in perspective.
A friend of mine recently lost her husband to cancer. When she talks about looking forward to seeing the movie, it makes her sad because her husband won't be able to go. He was really looking forward to it.
He was a lot like Wash. He was witty and sarcastic, more a lover than a fighter, and a genius when it came to piloting words across a page. The big difference is that he was a real, flesh-and-blood human being, not an illusion created by writers, actors, and camera operators.
I'll miss Wash, but I mourn my friend.
Let's keep this plot twist in perspective, folks . . .
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