Okay, what's REALLY going on in this 'assistance' to the disaster...?
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Wednesday, January 15, 2025 06:51
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Just for future reference, FYI. The caveat "eyes only" is meaningless without a qualification and a classification.
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Qui desiderat pacem praeparet bellum.
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Thanks 
About Fed vs. local handling of aid:
"Reminds me of the last time I saw two dogs alternately peeing on the same fire hydrant."
R1Z put it VERY succinctly, nes pas?
Chrisisall
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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
And I don’t know where the tin-foil hat reference comes from either. It’s just something I used to say to my brother who was quite the conspiracy theorist.
Qui desiderat pacem praeparet bellum.
The tin-foil hats are a common meme relating to the conspiracy-theory lunatic fringe. They keep the mind-control rays from working. Depending on who you ask, the rays come from the alien spacecraft, the black helicopters, the Ultra-low Frequency transmitters that the Navy "says" are for communication with submarines, or somewhere else.
Suggesting that someone wears a tin-foil hat humorously implies that they have trouble distinguishing reality from their fantasies.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
Just for future reference, FYI. The caveat "eyes only" is meaningless without a qualification and a classification.
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Qui desiderat pacem praeparet bellum.
The 08:42 timestamp is curious also. it is missing a timezone designator. Most communications use Zulu time, indicated by a Z, which is Grenwich Mean Time. If this timestamp is GMT, then the call would have been made at 3:42am Central Daylight Savings Time. Yawn.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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I just copy it the way I get it off the Shadow Government computers, I have no idea what time zone they're in.
Hacker Chrisisall
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Quote:This is an all-too-common fallacy.
Originally posted by Geezer:
They keep the mind-control rays from working. Depending on who you ask, the rays come from the alien spacecraft, the black helicopters, the Ultra-low Frequency transmitters that the Navy "says" are for communication with submarines, or somewhere else.
The tin foil doesn't really keep the rays out (it's not thick enough).
CT Chrisisall
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
This is an all-too-common fallacy.
The tin foil doesn't really keep the rays out (it's not thick enough).
Not even the heavy-duty Reynolds Wrap?
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HEEEro,
You must not read your own links, and presume no one else is, either. The Mayor is responsible for calling for evacuation, but has little other singular authority. He has NO CONTROL over buses, they are controlled by the Regional Transit Authority. And the provision of shelter areas called for in the plan had not yet been accomplished by the OEP. The OEP, which had the tactical authority to carry out actual evacuations, had been contracted out and was MIA during the actual event.
Evacuations, even mass evacuations, were primarily planned as an exodus in private (small) personal vehicles over existing highways. Blanco did everything possible to expedite the plans.
http://www.cityofno.com/portal.aspx?portal=46&tabid=26 (your link)
Authority to issue evacuations of elements of the population is vested in the Mayor. By Executive Order, the chief elected official, the Mayor of the City of New Orleans, has the authority to order the evacuation of residents threatened by an approaching hurricane. check
The SOP provides for the evacuation of the public from danger areas and the designations of shelters for evacuees. check
Conduct of an actual evacuation will be the responsibility of the Mayor of New Orleans check in coordination with the Director of the Office of Emergency Preparedness, and the OEP Shelter Coordinator. blank
Slow developing weather conditions (primarily hurricane) will create increased readiness culminating in an evacuation order 24 hours (12 daylight hours) prior to predicted landfall. check
D. Regional Transit Authority
* Supply transportation as needed in accordance with the current Standard Operating Procedures. blank
A. Shelter Demand
Shelter demand is currently under review by the Shelter Coordinator. Approximately 100,000 Citizens of New Orleans do not have means of personal transportation. blank
Please don't think they give a shit.
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SignyM
Quote:I concur. Blanco also did what was w/in her authority.
So in terms of going down the checklist to see what they didn't do, it appears Nagin did almost everything he was supposed to do. Any comments?
I have a question for you. It appears that depending on private contractors for government functions is a big problem in emergencies. I couldn't find the original New Orleans Regional Transportation Authority site (it's down), but the temporary site is http://www.norta.com/. Since it's listed as .com, I'm guessing it's a private contractor doing government business.
As to your earlier post "Innovative Emergency Management", I found this http://leninology.blogspot.com/2005/09/politics-of-weather-3-shyness-o
f.html right. The evidence that hurricane-management was privatised and handed over to IEM has been eradicated from the IEM website. It's almost as if someone was trying to evade responsibility for incompetence that's resulted in the deaths of thousands, or something."
and http://www.all-hands.net/
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FEMA : New Orleans Plan Outsourced to Pols-Cronies
Posted by: Steve on Sunday, September 04, 2005 - 06:30 PM
FEMA privatized hurricane disaster recovery planning for New Orleans and Southeastern Louisiana. The firms that received the contract are big GOP contributors.
Adding to the controversy regarding the Army Corps of Engineers diverting $250 million from the SELA (Southeast Louisiana) Urban Flood Control Program to Iraq and Halliburton reconstruction projects, is the revelation that FEMA outsourced hurricane recovery planning to the Baton Rouge-based consulting firm Innovative Emergency Management (IEM), Inc. to develop a "Catastrophic Hurricane Disaster Plan for New Orleans & Southeast Louisiana."
The award was announced on June 3, 2004 on the firm's web site but was taken down just as Hurricane Katrina's winds and waves first started pounding New Orleans.
If private contractors fail to provide services during an emergency, there is no timely accountability (eventually cancel the contract). And as far as I can tell, the government at whaever level has no authority to order employees of private contractors to do anything. They could not order bus transport, they could not make IEM implement the plan.
It seems foolish beyond belief to actually contract these things out if public security and safety depend on them.
Does this match with what you know?
Nearly everything I know I learned by the grace of others.
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