Is there a general anti-authoritarian feeling in the Whedonverses?
POSTED BY: chrisisall
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I’m pretty sure Whedon is a Democrat. One could probably do an internet search to find out what, if any political position, he’s taken that might be reported. But I’m afraid too. So many times, I do that only to find out that a celebrity that I held in high regard turns out to be a fruitcake when you add politics. And I just don’t want to find out that Whedon is a fruitcake. I realize that I'm too old to have celebrity heroes, but sue me.
On topic, I agree that it’s not anti-authoritarian as much as anti-establishment. Somewhat clichéd, though. The anti-establishment thing has been run into the ground. But someone said something on this board that I thought was rather interesting. The idea is that the anti-establishment ideal expressed in Firefly is a product of the anti-establishmentism of Mal and not necessarily an intrinsic quality. Sort of like the struggle between Antigone and Creon. You can sort of see the foundation of such an argument in the crew, where you’ve got examples of those who support the Polis (Inara and Book) and those that don’t (Mal and Zoe). I don’t know if that was the direction that Whedon was going with this. And I don’t think we will ever know, because I don’t know how well such an idea could be reflected in the movie. I think the movies will probably go in a very one-sided and much less thoughtful direction. But it’s an ingenious idea, not necessarily original, but certainly not the cookie-cutter stuff that is typical TV. Then again I could be reading way too much into it.
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Qui desiderat pacem praeparet bellum.
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Then get them to climb onto the inflatable, so you both can get there, and then cast it away...
… wait for the inflatable to get into deep, deep shark-infested waters and puncture it with a handy arrow/ blow pipe that I just happen to have secreted about my person ...
So before getting into any fights I need to do the following:
1. take up archery and become really, REALLY good …
2. buy an inflatable boat…
3. move to (tropical) island paradise …
Hmmm… this martial arts thing is beginning to sound quite attractive …
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But it’s an ingenious idea, not necessarily original, but certainly not the cookie-cutter stuff that is typical TV
You're right, just because it’s an old idea, doesn’t make it hackneyed …
Best ideas usually have been used before… the Medea “my husband cheats on me so I’m gonna kill his new little bint in revenge and then, just maybe, my children” still plays well … I guess it’s the old argument of there being a finite number of plots in the world simply rehashed again and again…
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Quote:Martial arts (for me) is mostly about focus. The ability to step outside yourself and 'see' the whole situation. To avoid, rather than check; check rather than hurt; hurt rather than maim; maim rather than kill; for all life is sacred, nor can any be replaced (a Shaolin thing).
Originally posted by Zoot:
Hmmm… this martial arts thing is beginning to sound quite attractive …
Tai-Chi is great for that, try it, you'll like it
A really big pipe works if you don't want to study formally.
And check out what Jackie Chan can do with just a chair...
Kwai-Chang Chrisisall
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Quote:I'd guess Democrat with a heavy Libertarian influence.
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
I’m pretty sure Whedon is a Democrat.
Quote:So Tom Cruise and John Travolta are off your list of idols?
So many times, I do that only to find out that a celebrity that I held in high regard turns out to be a fruitcake when you add politics. And I just don’t want to find out that Whedon is a fruitcake.
Like Mal said, anybody got a statue made for them was probably some kind of son-of-a-bitch or other.
Kirk is my hero Chrisisall
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