The violence and looting of New Orleans: what does that tell...
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Tuesday, September 6, 2005 01:27
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Chris, I agree it's just survival. I'd have done the same thing, I'm sure.
Condi Rice last week went to Broadway shows and went shopping, Bush played golf, and Chertoff continued to lie to Tim Russert, and dodge responsibility.
What boggles is the cutting of communications and short-wave jamming going on, as though no one wants any info getting out of there.
Best wishes to you.
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
And you Bush fans are lookin' stupider and sorrier by the minute.
Yeah...and that would be why I pretty much never come to these boards anymore.
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I wish I had a magical wish-granting plank.
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Anthony, if you don't know -- didn't know over a week ago -- that the President and all his men failed, no explanation of mine can enlighten you why these turds deserve the names I call them. It IS personal, and we need to expose such traitors to this country. Yes, traitors. Anyone who supports the current crop of politicians is helping them along the path they have taken, away from the people and toward helping only themselves.
I observe I am far from alone in my sentiments.
So, just to be certain that I understand this correctly, everyone who believes the leadership failed during this crisis must also agree to call everyone else a turd, a shithead, and a traitor?
If I think that we can disagree with wrong people without calling them turds, shitheads, and traitors, does that make ME a turd, shithead, and traitor?
--Anthony (shithead in training?)
"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner
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The more I see your posts Ruxton the more I come to respect you (even if our opinions differ on certain issues).
For those still defending Bush:
Firstly let me start with an analagy. When London was attacked in July Tony Blair (and I'm not a great fan of Tony Blair) returned the same day to London. Did Bush end his holiday the same day, to lead his administration as he is supposed to?
If the emergency responce had been a farce in London, as quite frankly the responce to NO has been the British would have been baying for blood the very same day. So how can now be to early to demand answers from those responcible?
And quite frankly Bush IS responcible. If mistakes were made in his absence then he is responcible for not being there.
Why the hell wasn't he kicking people into gear from the moment the situation occured (ignoring for an instant that things should have been done sooner).
I see army personel (now they've finally managed to get there) making excuses as to why they weren't there sooner. It was not possible, so they say, yet journalists made it. Maybe the American Military are so incompetant they can't get to places that a civilian journalist can.
Q: What do you have when you are holding two little green balls in your hand.
A: Kermit's undivided attention.
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Originally posted by Ruxton:
Chrisisall,
To address your initial question, as others noted here, there will always be a criminal element, and disasters such as this one might have led law-abiding citizens to bust windows to get food or water for their families. But what struck me was the apparent lack of leadership within the confines of the "safe" areas, like in the dome. I may have missed it, but it seemed like chaos reigned without anyone or any group taking, or trying to take, any semblence of control. This does not speak well for this country, if leaders don't pop up as needed.
Even in " safe areas " like Houston ?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4214122.stm
If they cant get control there, out of the immediate mess......
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I look at the hurricane and see people dealing with ruin just like the people did in the past. This was a disaster foretold. The city was placed behind large mounds of dirt whcih would someday give. All it took was time. People thought we could somehow beat nature and now we have learned that we can only do that for so long.
Now as to the looting. It is human nature those that have and those that have not will clash what needs to be done is take care of the injured rebuild the city and move on.
Our culture has not led to this it. It is that culture that allows for some folks to rise above to the circumstances.There will always be those who steal kill and rape others. Yet another reason the death penalty works so well once caught and killed those that commit these crimes cannot do it again.
TANSTAAFL
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Originally posted by G1223:
Our culture has not led to this it. It is that culture that allows for some folks to rise above to the circumstances.There will always be those who steal kill and rape others. Yet another reason the death penalty works so well once caught and killed those that commit these crimes cannot do it again.
And after all the justice system is so infallible no innocent will be put to death while the guilty go free.
After all, no one can change.
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Quote:Whoah, ease up everyone.
Originally posted by AnthonyT:
If I think that we can disagree with wrong people without calling them turds, s***heads, and traitors, does that make ME a turd, sh***ead, and traitor?
AnthonyT, there are people who are wrong, and there are people, who by ineptitude or carelessness, get people KILLED. Some folks are gonna get real raw in the way they describe Bush, and I for one will not be bothered in the least by it, it IS personal, and it IS emotional.
I called Bush a political android, cold and badly wired. I think that's the nicest description you'll find on this board by Bush non-supporters. Just don't freak when the emotional level goes up, people are still dying.
Chrisisall
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