How Would They Do it?
POSTED BY: HKCavalier
UPDATED: Tuesday, August 9, 2005 10:58
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Originally posted by Hero:Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
I bow to you, Hero, your comedic talents are growing faster than your lightsabre skills, that was gorram funny.
Still wiping away the tears Chrisisall
And I was just over in Court, this young woman walks in wearing the shortest skirt, I mean Ally Mcbeal would have blushed, it was part of this sweet business suit thing. First thought was "DAMN!". Followed by, "DAMN, I hope she's a lawyer!" Follwed by "DAMN, I hope she's a stripper!" Followed by "Oops, did I say that out loud?"
My point is this my friends. WE CAN'T LET THE TERRORISTS WIN. We can't. Imagine a world with no stripper/lawyer micro-miniskirted business suits. Thats just not a world I want to live in.
H
The single most difficult thing for me to understand coming from "the right" is this idea that the terrorists can win. That they can somehow destroy our way of life and take away all the stripper/lawyer micro-miniskirted business suits.
So, how would they do it? How they gonna pull it off? I'm not looking for a fight; I'd really like to hear how folks see it going down if our worst fears were to come true.
HKCavalier
Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
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Well let’s see…
Briefcase nuke DC and NYC.
Random car bombing and shooting in the streets of America.
Highjack Oil Tankers and LNG Tankers in US ports and blow them up.
Get a Pakistani Submarine (They got about 9 French built boats) crews to defect to the Terrorist and begin sinking oil tankers exiting the gulf bound to America. Then reload her and covertly transit it with an oiler to the Panama canal area.
Take an old freighter and fit it with a high altitude SAM system and start shooting down random jetliners. (This would be a ***** to track down)
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I'd like to think Hero was just tryin' to be funny there, but to answer your question, terrorists have neither the equiptment, training, manpower, money or intelligence to completely 'win' at what they aim to achieve.
They can torment us periodically, make us fear our fellow man a little more, get our leaders to tighten their grasp in a martial law sort of way, but the only ultimate goal they'll ever reach is shaking hands with the lord of their particular Hells a little sooner.
We have more to fear internally than from outside our borders, at this moment in time, anyway. Fear driven decisions combined with corporate greed will be our undoing, if anything.
Sorry for lack of funny Chrisisall
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How can the terrorists win? Maybe they could figure out some way to get us to waste hundreds billions of dollars on a pointless war? Or maybe they could trick our government into eroding our civil liberties... They might even be able to get us so mad we'd alienate all of our allies and turn most of the world against us. Who knows, they might even get us to participate in some bullshit religious crusade pitting Christianity against Islam. Armageddon for everyone!
Who am I kidding? Our leaders would never fall for all that.
SergeantX
"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock
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Quote:Okay, I take back some of what I said. This made me think my post was way over on the hopeful side.
Originally posted by SergeantX:
Who knows, they might even get us to participate in some bullshit religious crusade pitting Christianity against Islam. Armageddon for everyone!
Chrisisall
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Originally posted by HKCavalier:
So, how would they do it? How they gonna pull it off? I'm not looking for a fight; I'd really like to hear how folks see it going down if our worst fears were to come true.
How would they win? Thats easy, let me demonstrate: BANG, your dead, they win.
Hey stripper/lawyer micro-miniskirted business suit Lady, BANG, your dead, they win.
Oh, and anybody who does not do what they say, wear what they allow you to wear, pray to their version of God, and generally do anything they disapprove of up to and including just for the hell of it, BANG, you dead, they win.
We can't let that happen. We have to protect the lives and the rights of HKCavaliers, stripper/lawyer micro-miniskirted business suit ladies, and our children from the scourge of fascism, reality TV, the Democratic Party, and religous extremism.
I tried to get her number so I could make my desire to uphold her rights a bit more personal, but she wasn't having it. So I convicted her of speeding and got her a hefty fine.
Serving justice, one pair of legs at a time,
H
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Normally I do not comment on these, as Sarge does an excellent job of saying everything I woulda said before I bother to type it...
But consider this, when folks say...
"How horrible it will be if they win!"
What you should ALSO consider...
"How horrible it will be if we win!"
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Oh, and anybody who does not do what they say, wear what they allow you to wear, pray to their version of God, and generally do anything they disapprove of up to and including just for the hell of it, BANG, you dead, they win.
How exactly, does this differ from the eventual intent of the religiously-inspired american "Hard Right", cause you are not at all fooling anyone into believing that if by some impossible miracle, you wipe out all those "terrorists", that you are not going to purge your little kingdom of all those "liberals" soon thereafter.
So I say unto you... exactly what's the difference ?
The "Right" gave us Tim McVeigh, Eric Rudolph and William Klar, remember.
I say to you - not one dimes worth of difference, and that's a fact.
-Frem
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Originally posted by Hero:Quote:
Originally posted by HKCavalier:
So, how would they do it? How they gonna pull it off? I'm not looking for a fight; I'd really like to hear how folks see it going down if our worst fears were to come true.
How would they win? Thats easy, let me demonstrate: BANG, your dead, they win.
Hey stripper/lawyer micro-miniskirted business suit Lady, BANG, your dead, they win.
Oh, and anybody who does not do what they say, wear what they allow you to wear, pray to their version of God, and generally do anything they disapprove of up to and including just for the hell of it, BANG, you dead, they win.
We can't let that happen. We have to protect the lives and the rights of HKCavaliers, stripper/lawyer micro-miniskirted business suit ladies, and our children from the scourge of fascism, reality TV, the Democratic Party, and religous extremism.
It was a serious question. As I see it, the lynch pin of the argument for a "Global War on Terror" is the idea that "the Terrorists" have the real ability to defeat the U.S. In other words, a "Global War on Terror" is necessary for our survival as a people; that our enemies pose not just a criminal threat, but a political threat as well. This is the basic principle upon which all other arguments for the war are built. Without it, our aggression is simply empire building and retribution.
I don't see it. I've never seen it. And when I ask for an explanation I get quips and b.s. That's fine, I have done little to endear myself to Hero. But surely someone can show me a plausible way for Osama Bin Laden and/or his admirers to actually implement this dream of world domination?
HKCavalier
Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
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I wasn't being entirely glib with my response, HK. There's reason to think that Osama and friends know exactly what they're doing. They spent the latter part of the nineties trying to convince the larger Muslim community that the US was intent on occupying their land, reshaping their culture and taking their oil. He was mostly ignored. Since 9/11, unfortunately, we've given him quite a bit of evidence for his argument and I don't think it took much genius on his part to suspect that we'd do just as we have.
I think they want to keep us provoked and stomping around until we've enraged the world to the point that they'll unite against us. He knows he can't defeat us militarily, but I think he believes he's found a way to bring us into conflict with those who could, given a very specific set of circumstances. Namely, it would require that our forces be spread thin in an overzealous worldwide campaign, our economy weakened by years of insecurity, and our national will demoralized by the moral ambiguity of our leadership. I don't think this will happen, but it's not as farfetched as it sounds and we've already gone a long way down his path.
SergeantX
"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock
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HK and SergeantX
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the lynch pin of the argument for a "Global War on Terror" is the idea that "the Terrorists" have the real ability to defeat the U.S. ... that our enemies pose not just a criminal threat, but a political threat as well
Quote:You two gave me something big to think about.
He knows he can't defeat us militarily
Nearly everything I know I learned by the grace of others.
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