New Firefly fan!
POSTED BY: tvdir
UPDATED: Thursday, December 12, 2002 18:10
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Hi everyone,
I'm a new fan. I have been looking at the board for weeks now. I usually don't post, but I thought I would break out and say Hi.
I missed the first three episodes, but I started on "Jaynestown." Although I thought the episode was OK (I laughed at the Western part), I gave the show another chance the following week ("Out of Gas" drew me in -- great job!). And I have been a fan since then.
I'm also a "Star Trek" fan (as well as "Battlestar Galactica" fan), but I must say "Firefly" is so superior than the latest "Enterprise." The stories on "Enterprise" is so lame compared to FF. As everyone said in posts, "War Stories", too, had me on the edge of my seat. I never enjoyed an episode as much as that one. A little too violent (shocking for network TV), but it was action-packed.
I know everyone would love to see it on DVD now, but it would better to keep the show on-the-air first. Even though we all know what the chances are for a FOX renewal for this season, we should keep hoping for a miracle. Maybe FOX should remember what happened with NBC's "JAG." They cancelled it, and CBS picked it up. And now look, a major hit for CBS. If only NBC waited.... (they also lost "Baywatch", too)
Maybe Joss should change the name of the show to:
"Star Trek: Firefly"
"Law and Order: Firefly"
"CSI: Firefly"
OK, a liitle joke, but the show would have many seasons under the title.
Hope to talk to some of you as we all hope for a renewal.
Thanks!
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Welcome. It's always good to see a new face here.
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Originally posted by tvdir:
I must say "Firefly" is so superior than the latest "Enterprise." The stories on "Enterprise" is so lame compared to FF.
I'm right there with you. The thing that bugs me about "Enterprise" is the way they've done such a halfhearted job of introducing interpersonal conflict into the show. Through the pilot and the first couple of episodes, it seemed like they were trying to build an ensemble cast with plenty of friction, made up of characters that had their own quirks. The captain and the Vulcan didn't even get along very well.
Now, though, all that is gone, gone. Everybody gets along great. There are no shouting matches, no fistfights. Which is in keeping with Gene Roddenberry's vision, I suppose-- I remember that he wrote in reference to "The Next Generation" that the characters were not to have the petty jealousies and squabbles that real people are heir to-- but it's boring as all get out.
On Firefly, on the other hand, characters threaten to blow each other out of airlocks. There's shouting and disagreeableness. Everybody manages to get along, but only barely, and with gritted teeth. Now that's interesting.
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Yes, exactly my thoughts on Enterprise. The last new episode where Hoshi was afraid to use the transporter, the ending was so terrible. To build up the entire episode (i.e. she missing, Archer telling her father she is dead, the morse code, aliens bombing the ship, etc.) then to end it with, "Oh, you were stuck in the transporter buffer for 8 seconds." Give me a break. I never seen a "Star Trek" episode so lousy developed in the writing. This is a season and a half of adventures, while Firefly is under ten so far. And the episodes I have seen are so incredibily developed with its characters.
I'm not a Buffy or Angel (never have seen them) viewer, so I'm watching this as a sci-fi viewer, regardless of Joss and his involvement. He and his team (along with the actors) have impressed me. 
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welcome to the nuthouse! hehe. The world needs more firefly fans,so do your best to get people addicted!
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Originally posted by tvdir:
I never seen a "Star Trek" episode so lousy developed in the writing.
Oh, I don't know. I think the one a few weeks ago that was basically lifted from The Seven Samurai (and The Magnificent Seven, and A Bug's Life, for cryin' out loud) was pretty weak. As I watched, two thoughts kept bouncing through my head. The first, "Must... change... channel," I was pretty well able to ignore. But the second stayed with me.
It was the idea that if I were writing that episode, I would have had the heros lose. Klingons come back, see that the clever heros have moved the town, beam down in force, and start killing civilians. A complete massacre. Archer and his crew manage to get out only by the slimmest of margins, and even then with only some kind of long-term consequences. Maybe they would have been able to rescue one or two of the civilians, and had to keep them aboard the ship for several months while they made their way back to Earth. Maybe a crewmember could have lost a limb or something. That would have been worth watching. No reset buttons, though; Archer's personality would have been seriously affected by his knowledge that his cockiness led to the deaths of umpty-bump dozen innocent people, and that he should have left well enough alone. Hey, maybe they could have even made some kind of sidewise reference to a new general order from Starfleet on that topic.
Also would have had the side-benefit of establishing the Klingons as first-class badasses, something that the series sorely needs.
But no, instead we got a "they-lived-happily-ever-after" story. For crying out loud, "Leave It To Beaver" had more conflict and drama than this!
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Originally posted by Twirlip:
I were writing that episode, I would have had the heros lose. Klingons come back, see that the clever heros have moved the town, beam down in force, and start killing civilians. A complete massacre. Archer and his crew manage to get out only by the slimmest of margins, and even then with only some kind of long-term consequences. Maybe they would have been able to rescue one or two of the civilians, and had to keep them aboard the ship for several months while they made their way back to Earth. Maybe a crewmember could have lost a limb or something. That would have been worth watching. No reset buttons, though; Archer's personality would have been seriously affected by his knowledge that his cockiness led to the deaths of umpty-bump dozen innocent people, and that he should have left well enough alone. Hey, maybe they could have even made some kind of sidewise reference to a new general order from Starfleet on that topic.
Gee, that seem's like something Joss would write.
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Originally posted by LivingImpaired:
Gee, that seem's like something Joss would write.
Maybe I'm too big a fan. Or maybe I'm secretly Joss, posting in secret. Secretly. Maybe.
Probably not, though. Almost certainly not, I would say. If I were Joss, I would know. I might not admit it, however. Which more or less amounts to the same thing from everybody else's point of view. I think.
But one thing's for sure: I am not a porn star.
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Have you noticed nobody has died on Enterprise yet. Not even a security man. Archer has a good clean record after 35 episodes or so.
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That is so un Trek if I watched that show it would make me cry.
How ya supposed to play guess who's gonna die ( like in the original) if nobody dies.
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