ALL ENGLAND BROWNCOATS SOUND OFF!!!!!!

POSTED BY: Static
UPDATED: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 09:54
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ZOL

Friday, July 8, 2005 11:14 PM

sorry now changed befor that goes off into a different realm, thanks.

Darin (Zol.)

SIMONWHO

Friday, July 8, 2005 11:53 PM

I'm not Jewish and I also take offensive at the comments. "Well established" my arse. The only respectable source that talks about a warning being given before the attacks is this piece by the Associated Press:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050707/ap_on_re_mi_ea/israel_britain_expl
osions_1

However, that report a) states that it was Scotland Yard who warned Netanyahu and b) this is based on an official who wished to remain anonymous.

BROSFLIPPER

Friday, July 8, 2005 11:56 PM

I think we may be missing the point here. Regardless of religion or ideology the point of terrorism is to spread terror. Judging by the turn out in my office, and on the tubes and trains in London as I travelled in to the city today, I think the perpetrators of the violence in London have already lost. Despite the fact that most of my team travel past the sites of yesterdays attacks, they were all in work today.

I wore my "Fighting Elves" t-shirt to work, and my 2 chinese speaking staff were highly amused - they seemed to think it summed up the attitude here (and the rest were just jealous).

RUXTON

Saturday, July 9, 2005 5:38 AM

HilaryJaneUK,

Perhaps I should clarify. By "Israelis" I meant the IDF. "By way of deception, thou shalt do war." [Motto of the Mossad.] However, the news gives the info as "Israeli Embassy," not as the Mossad or IDF. However, embassies being what they are, the Mossad is implicated.

Also, you ought to take offense at what is public news, not at the messenger.

RUXTON

Saturday, July 9, 2005 6:45 AM

Simon, FYI, the link you mentioned is the same one Drudge had yester, to which I referred. If you think www.whatreallyhappened.com is not respectable (being largely a collection of links to verifiable news sites worldwide), you have not done your homework, my boy.

Also, there's this, verifying what I said:
"Several hours later, Israeli Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom officially denied reports that Scotland Yard passed any information to Israel regarding the bombings, and British police denied they had any advanced warning of the attacks. The British authorities similarly denied that any information exchange had occurred."
[ http://fairuse.1accesshost.com/news2/stratfor-london.html]

The info that the Yard had contacted Netanyahu came from an anonymous source in the Israeli Foreign Ministry, NOT FROM SCOTLAND YARD! If this offends any/all, that's your problem because I didn't make it up.

Nor did I initiate the diversity of this thread. My response was to Zoid, not to anyone else here except to alert everyone to not place blame without gathering information, as was done in another thread devoted to this disaster. Get your facts straight, HilaryJane and Simon, before you blow off at the lip. For that matter, what's wrong with inspiring discussion from Brits who may be able to shed light here?

Bottom line, as I said yesterday: The day before the London attacks major news sources announced the imminent withdrawal of Brit troops from Iraq. But the attacks have resulted in Tony Blair insisting that British troops now remian in Iraq. So, who got what they wanted from the bombings? Who WANTS troops to remain in Iraq? THAT is who did the bombings.

CANTON

Saturday, July 9, 2005 6:59 AM

Don't mean to be out of line. . .but Rock on in the U.S.A! Had to say it, but I have much love for my U.K brothers and sisters!

Check out the Browncoat Online Photoalbum. Thank Fray101. http://clik.to/photoverse

SIMONWHO

Saturday, July 9, 2005 11:34 PM

First, I'm very familiar with whatreallyhappened.com and how inaccurate, biased and generally insane it is. Second, the link you posted has the incredibly unreliable source of "unconfirmed rumors in intelligence circles" for the idea that Israel warned the UK of the attacks a few days beforehand. Third, the hypothesis you're suggesting (Israel knew about the attacks, would benefit from them, therefore wanted them to go ahead) bears no relation to even the evidence you're suggesting. If (and I'm dubious to the extreme) Israel were to want the bombings to go ahead, why would they warn the UK? Indeed the article suggests that Israel may embarrass Blair by publicly acknowledging the early warning.

>> The day before the London attacks major news sources announced the imminent withdrawal of Brit troops from Iraq.

Please link to these "major news sources" then. There has been a document released discussing how we could remove troops (if by "imminent" you mean over the next year or so) but government documents discuss hypotheticals all the time, particularly when they relate to things that will eventually happen. Blair has made it clear we're in Iraq until the new government has trained up enough soldiers/policemen to replace us and the Americans. To go back on that would be political suicide.

>> So, who got what they wanted from the bombings? Who WANTS troops to remain in Iraq? THAT is who did the bombings.

Well, let me see. Lt Johnson's wife is having an affair and wants her husband to stay out there so she's got a motive. George W wants his number 1 ally to stay out there too. Jim Davidson wants to entertain the troops somewhere local to his new home in Bahrain. There's three suspects to be rounded up immediately. (Actually, I wouldn't object to the last two being detained indefinitely.)

If you want to accuse a nation or a religious group or indeed anyone of bombing London and framing Islamic terrorists for it, go ahead and do so. I'd respect you more if you didn't pussyfoot around and make vague innuendos. If you think that Ariel Sharon would authorise such a move, that one of our allies in the Middle East would attack our citizens and then warn us about their own imminent attack, well, everyone's entitled to an opinion.

ACROWLEY

Sunday, July 10, 2005 3:38 AM

Yes, yes, blah blah blah. Conspiracies abound. Grrrrr! Let's all howl at the moon, get out our aluminum foil hats and get back to the topic at hand:

LONDON BROWN COATS!

How the hell are yeh?

FANTASTICLAUGHINGFAIRY

Sunday, July 10, 2005 2:38 PM

All my family n friends are fine, thought I'd let you know.
Hope everyone else is OK too!
And my condolences go to all the families involved.

...and we will call it...this land...

ZOID

Sunday, July 10, 2005 5:04 PM

...Frankly, I'm dreadfully sorry and downright embarassed I brought up the 'real world discussion' side of this topic. If I could take it back I would; but some djinnis apparently can't be stuffed back into their bottles, simply by ignoring them and hoping they'll die of inattention.

To those who have suffered in this latest round of terrorist attacks (regardless who perpetrated them), I offer my humble apologies and beg your forgiveness. Hopefully, the other 'commentators' that I have incited will follow my lead and zip their lips on speculative input. It's a faint hope, but this thread is indeed only about the whereabouts of London Browncoat Regulars.

Does anyone have a complete(ish) head count on our brothers and sisters yet? I am truly concerned for the citizens of London in general, and our fellow 'flans' in particular...

Sheepishly,

zoid

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