Firefly Mechanics 101

POSTED BY: Zoot
UPDATED: Sunday, June 19, 2005 16:46
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HOTPOINT

Thursday, June 16, 2005 5:22 PM

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Originally posted by Daikath:
In Serenity however they had this special thing to get away from the feds.

The butt of the Firefly would light up and there it would go. In the special features it talked of a way of making it go for really fast travel.

I think that was faster then light speed.

All it looked like was some pretty brutal high-gee acceleration rather than a jump to FTL. You can be sub-light and still be going "really fast" by todays standards.

The "Firefly Effect" could just be plasma residue from the Nuclear Engines at maximum being interfered with by the ships artificial gravity and inertial dampeners (it must have the latter as well as the former or else the Crazy Ivan would have had a messy effect on the crew).

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Originally posted by Daikath:

Besides if everything had to be within a single system the number of planets they can visit are finite. If you can do it with several systems there is always an extra moon, planet or etc they can visit making the series more dynamic and helps to keep it fresh over 7 years.

You can write a good character-based sci-fi orientated storyline that will last for several seasons without needing to follow the Star-Trek new-planet-each-week pattern. And lets face it Joss can really write!

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JASONZZZ

Thursday, June 16, 2005 5:51 PM

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
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Originally posted by Zoot:
Yeah, but my problem with that is the - scare them enough and they think they've got nothing to loose thing ....
Or don’t scare them at all and they think they’ve got something to gain. Either way, you’re going to need a defense.

Qui desiderat pacem praeparet bellum.

Excellent! and definitely ask the Swiss about what it means. Every single Swiss were determined for absolute neutrality (ok, except for the few traitors) during WWII, they were also almost the most well armed and definitely the most well trained marksmen on the continent during that time. They trained to knock off targets at 300 meters when their most ardent opponents were only training for take down at 100 meters.

I really respect the Swiss for demonstrating the spirit of "Qui desiderat pacem praeparet bellum."

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Friday, June 17, 2005 12:44 AM

I am a proponent of the Multiple Systems Theory. This is mostly because of “Out of Gas,” where “past” Mal tells Zoe that with the ship, no matter how long the arm of the Alliance got, they could go just a little farther. This could never be true in a single system. You would run out of habitable zone or habitable planets (even terraformed ones).

You would in a galaxy, too, if you want to be technical about it, but I suspect Mal and Zoe would not live long enough to run out of places to go in a galaxy.

Anyway…

I think the true answer(s) cannot be determined. In the related questions of “Faster Than Light travel or not?” and “Multiple star systems or one?”, I remain convinced that Joss doesn’t understand or care.

When asked in an interview if there was FTL travel in the Firefly universe, he didn’t say, “No”. He said, “I don’t think so.” Then he went on to say he’d cry if asked any more science questions.

I remain convinced that Joss doesn’t really understand the differences between outer space, a star system, a group of star systems, a galaxy, and a universe. I think it is all “outer space” to him. Sort of like how some un-informed folks might think that the Pharoah Rameses the Great, Alexander the Great, and Julius Caeser were all more or less contemporaries of each other (they weren't, not by hundreds of years).

I could believe that this misunderstanding in spatial scale could lead to “no FTL travel” coupled with “travel between several star systems in weeks” (which is CLEARLY impossible).

Yes, travel at the speed of plot.

If I’m right, then Joss, the only person with the authority to answer the “FTL” and “multi vs one system” questions, is simply not qualified to do so.

And if these questions are NOT answered, then you could have various writers for the series assuming one or the other position and dropping clues that point both ways.

It’s sad, really, to leave such a hole in an otherwise great background.

Some would tell me that these details don’t matter, that it’s all about the characters. This is true to a point, but I find such errors as glaring as if the crew section was on the upper level one week and the lower level the next. Or if the Serenity was armed with lasers one week and not the next. It is a matter of getting the show’s continuity down.

Of course, I’ll love Firefly no matter what. I just wish they’d thought a bit more about the science aspects, too.

Maybe the movie will answer this question. I’ll know next week.

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DAIKATH

Sunday, June 19, 2005 4:46 PM

I said this before buut ive been thinking about it and Ive become really convinced about this.

Remember the show was cancelled in mid season. They had all those moons there wich would be hard to fit into a single solar system (but possible). But if it indeed was a single solar system dont you think they would have visited the same planets more often then they did? In the first couple of episodes they went to all of them.. Seems a bit strange.

If it is one solar system and indeed all those moons and planets to indeed fit in it. Wouldt all those moons and planet be really developed as there wouldt be too much of them?

If you indeed will have planets and moons where they just drop them with some horses and blankets, wouldt you think they would send more if there werent more then thirty moons or planets?

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