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Wes' guns?

POSTED BY: Noocyte
UPDATED: Saturday, March 26, 2005 22:18
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Thursday, March 24, 2005 7:48 PM

Anybody sufficiently steel-savvy to tell what kinds of shootin' irons Wes wielded? They look like .45s to me, going by the barrel bores. Possibly S&W?

Idle monkey curiosity, is all...



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Thursday, March 24, 2005 9:55 PM

As well as I could see them, they were a brace of Colt (or clone) 1911s, indeed in .45 ACP. These are just about the finest self-defense handguns available, and a choice that endeared Wes to me like nothing before. The shotgun clinched it.

Hope this helps.

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Thursday, March 24, 2005 10:31 PM

The guns. Sigh. I try to forget them.

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Friday, March 25, 2005 5:33 AM

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Originally posted by Grounded:
The guns. Sigh. I try to forget them.



Well, I will admit that the vast majority of the times they were drawn, they did little more than provide a nice hero shot, followed by an ignominious anticlimax. This tracks with the whole "traditional weapons with ritual significance for the slaying of mystical or quasi-mystical entities" vibe, and indeed I rather like that. No fundamental disagreement on the pervasive idea that firearms are far too prosaic a weapon for the foes of "Angel's Avengers."

Still, I can recall a certain daddy-glamoured droid which was inches from stealing Angel's will, and/or Fred's life (and so denying her and Wes the brief bit of joy they were to have), being handily dispatched by a few well-placed slugs. Also, the firearms at least provided a much-needed distraction on more than one occasion.

And Ruxton, indeed, the 1911 is a most efficacious slab of steel (though my tastes lean more toward a 9mm or .40; greater mag capacity for a modest trade-off in stopping power per unit of lead. SIGs and Glocks and Springields --specifically, the XD series-- are more my flavor). However, I think Wes' pistols are customized Colt Combat Commanders ( http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg04-e.htm 5th pic from the top), rather than "straight" 1911s. Thoughts?

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Friday, March 25, 2005 12:04 PM

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Originally posted by Noocyte:
though my tastes lean more toward a 9mm or .40; greater mag capacity for a modest trade-off in stopping power per unit of lead.



Does this scare anyone else?

But yes I definitely agree with the comment about Lineage. Couldn't have been as effective any other way.

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Friday, March 25, 2005 4:35 PM

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Originally posted by Grounded:
Quote:

Originally posted by Noocyte:
though my tastes lean more toward a 9mm or .40; greater mag capacity for a modest trade-off in stopping power per unit of lead.



Does this scare anyone else?

But yes I definitely agree with the comment about Lineage. Couldn't have been as effective any other way.




Fear not, Grounded: I'm all aware of how ghastly that came out. It was just the most efficient (and least euphemistic, without getting grisly) way of saying what I meant!

And, lest readers calibrate their impresions of me against a mental image of a survivalist militia lead-head, permit me to hijack my own thread to clarify that I'm really a very peaceful guy. True, I do intend to purchase a handgun at some point, but more out of appreciation for the skill of shooting than the vanishingly small (one hopes!!) probability that I will ever have to use the instrument for its "intended" purpose ("does the thing itself have purpose, or do we....what's the word").

(Bias check: would your reaction have been different to the latter portion of the above paragraph if I'd said that I was planning to take up archery or fencing?)

Keep flyin'


(kidding!)

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Friday, March 25, 2005 5:29 PM

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Originally posted by Noocyte:
("does the thing itself have purpose, or do we....what's the word").



"imbue. that's the word."

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Friday, March 25, 2005 5:42 PM

Guns are problematic

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Friday, March 25, 2005 5:50 PM

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Originally posted by Noocyte:
(Bias check: would your reaction have been different to the latter portion of the above paragraph if I'd said that I was planning to take up archery or fencing?)



People tend not to choose bows or swords based on stopping power ;) And of course I understood you what you were originally trying to say :)

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Friday, March 25, 2005 8:52 PM

Ooh, Wes in leather, all scruffy-lookin', wielding his sawed-off shotgun....whew, sorry

I know we've had this discussion numerous times about guns in the Buffy/Angel verses and their usage in various episodes, but I like to see it as the simple fact of guys looking cool with guns. And a multitude of comic book writers and artists have the same idea, only it's with well-endowed, scantily-clad women and guns.

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