Firefly Wars , battle of Serenity - What Period is it like ?

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REAVERMADNESS

Friday, February 11, 2005 8:11 PM

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It has to be the War of Northern Aggression

Reavermadness, you must be south of the mason-dixon. Here in Indiana folks call it the civil war but when I visit friends in Virgina they always correct me.

Born and raised.

I can even name all my
ancestors (direct and some collateral) who fought in the war. If need be I could even mention a few who fought on the yankee side. (Don't worry, they weren't turn coats. They were just born up there.)

I've always told people the I was lucky. I had some ancestors who fought on the the right side and some who fought on the winning side of that war.

HOTPOINT

Friday, February 11, 2005 8:29 PM

Well in military terms Du Khang seemed more like Stalingrad than the battles of the Napoleonic or American Civil Wars so the parallel falls apart at that point.

Also we know that civilians were apparently targeted deliberately, and by biochemical warfare no less, so again this is more akin to the viciousness of the fighting on the Eastern Front in WWII. Even during Shermans march to the sea very few civilians were deliberately killed, although much property was destroyed, so the war in Firefly just seems a lot nastier than the ACW to me.

My personal model of the war is actually more akin to the rise of the British in India with the change from informal business ambitions (with the East India Company) to formal Empire.

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THIEFJEHAT

Friday, February 11, 2005 9:47 PM

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Originally posted by Hotpoint:
Even during Shermans march to the sea very few civilians were deliberately killed, although much property was destroyed

I had heard that "Burn the Land and Boil the Sea" was a reference to Shermans March. In this case, the Alliance had clearly won the Unification War and so proceeded to pillage and burn certain rim worlds to humiliate and degrade the Independance. Also such an act further destroyed certain infrastructures vital to waging another war.

REAVERMADNESS

Friday, February 11, 2005 10:49 PM

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Originally posted by Hotpoint:
Well in military terms Du Khang seemed more like Stalingrad than the battles of the Napoleonic or American Civil Wars so the parallel falls apart at that point.

Also we know that civilians were apparently targeted deliberately, and by biochemical warfare no less, so again this is more akin to the viciousness of the fighting on the Eastern Front in WWII. Even during Shermans march to the sea very few civilians were deliberately killed, although much property was destroyed, so the war in Firefly just seems a lot nastier than the ACW to me.

Tell me you're joking. Here is one of the many things you should look up before making a statement like that.

"The March to the Sea, the Civil War's most destructive campaign against a civilian population, began in Atlanta on November 15, 1864, and concluded in Savannah on December 21, 1864. General William T. Sherman abandoned his supply line and marched across Georgia to the Atlantic Ocean to prove to the Confederate population that its government could not protect the people from invaders." from the www.georgiaencyclopedia.org.

or perhaps

"In 1862 Sherman was having difficulty subduing Confederate sharpshooters
who were harassing federal gunboats on the Mississippi River near Memphis.
He then adopted the theory of "collective responsibility" to "justify"
attacking innocent civilians in retaliation for such attacks. He burned the
entire town of Randolph, Tennessee, to the ground. He also began taking
civilian hostages and either trading them for federal prisoners of war or
executing them." a quote from Thomas J. DiLorenzo who is a professor of economics at Loyola
College in Maryland.

There's more. Google it yourself and read on.

HOTPOINT

Friday, February 11, 2005 11:35 PM

How many civilians were verifiably killed by Sherman because most of what I read indicated that whilst property damage was extensive civilian fatalities weren't

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Sherman cut a terrible path of destruction. Sherman's foragers, called bummers, were authorized to take whatever was necessary to fuel his own army and cripple the Rebel army, but not to indiscriminately burn houses or harm civilians. (Such a campaign invariably slips out of control, however, and some of Sherman's bummers exceeded their orders while their officers turned a blind eye.) Meanwhile, Grant sent Phil Sheridan to Virginia's Shenandoah Valley with orders to finish the job started by David Hunter: defeat Jubal Early and destroy Confederate farms providing food and forage for Lee's army. Like Sherman's fabled March to the Sea, Sheridan's Shenandoah campaign caused very few civilian deaths.

http://www.virginiawestern.edu/vwhansd/HIS269/myths2.html#Sherman_marc
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Hurrah, hurrah, when things are at their worst
With cries of “Death or Glory” comes the mighty Twenty-First

REAVERMADNESS

Wednesday, February 16, 2005 8:46 PM

"How many civilians were verifiably killed by Sherman..."

I've been looking. Trying to find the most "verifiable" numbers I can get. I'll post when I can find something rock solid.

When I die I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandpa. Not screaming and yelling like everyone else in the car he was driving.

REAVERMADNESS

Wednesday, February 16, 2005 8:46 PM

"How many civilians were verifiably killed by Sherman..."

I've been looking. Trying to find the most "verifiable" numbers I can get. I'll post when I can find something rock solid.

When I die I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandpa. Not screaming and yelling like everyone else in the car he was driving.

JAYNEZTOWN

Sunday, August 2, 2026 2:45 AM

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