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Alliance of West & China in real world - US/Chinese union !?

POSTED BY: JaynezTown
UPDATED: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 07:43
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Tuesday, December 14, 2004 4:40 AM

So Joss had this crazy idea in his Tv-show/movie. A whole new frontier in the future, spaceships making illegal claims so they have enough food to eat and a crazy totalitarian government which seems to have grown out of the Alliance of USA and China, but is this all science fiction or is an alliance regime possible today ?

Maybe its happening right now

If you can find any examples of an alliance between the PRC and the West post 'em here, no matter how insignificant it may seem, it could be that the Joss story may one day come true.



Here are some examples

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October and November of 04 a Big Reversal on Taiwan

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The GOP and China has before been in a bit of a political conflict, however things took a massive U-turn when President Bush recently reversed his position of standing next to Taiwan...Powell went over to them to rub it in.

Taiwan's President Chen Shui-bian has defended his island's sovereignty after U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell made clear that Washington did not consider the self-ruled island an independent state. ...
US Secretary of State Colin Powell emphasized, during his meeting with Chinese President Hu Jintao, that the United States will unswervingly pursue the one-China policy and oppose any action aiming at "Taiwan independence".....
Taiwan is still recovering from something approaching a collective heart attack over remarks made by US Secretary of State Powell in Beijing




The falling Dollar and the Rise of other powerful currency such as the Euro and Chinese RMB Yuan,
maybe the future will have a single global currency that covers the East and West ?



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There is little doubt that the EU has become an economic superpower, the Euro zone has expanded and it has become a really powerful and influential trading bloc. We have seen the growth of the Euro and other nations are staring to join the European Union, The EU remains Australia's largest trading partner, with two-way trade between Australia and the EU totalling $A44.2 billion ...
For the fifth year running, coal was the most important export from Australia to the EU, decreasing slightly by 4.3% to $A2.0bn, and accounting for 13.8% of Australia's total exports to the EU. Australia's second most important export to the EU was non-monetary gold, which although somewhat erratic over the years, increased by 40.6% to $A1.3bn. Alcoholic beverages, principally wine, was the third most important export from Australia to the EU, increasing by 11.6% to $A1.2 billion and accounting for just under half of Australia's total exports of this item.
Australian imports from the EU increased by 10.8% to reach $A29.3 billion, or 23% of total, with the EU being the principal source of imports since 1994-95.... Current EU rules in areas such as banking, insurance and air transport contain reciprocity provisions which can be used in the absence of bilateral access commitments or multilateral obligations, although they have not been invoked. Subject to specific horizontal and sector-specific limitations, the Community has offered under the GATS to bind national treatment for establishment and conditions of operation for all financial services. In air and maritime transport, benefits such as cabotage rights are reserved for companies wholly or majority owned by member States or their nationals.......in May 10 new countries joined the Union, making it the third largest grouping of people in the world after China and India. Will it become a cohesive political force and can its members agree on the draft constitution ?
.... and freaking dollar is still going down! the strength the euro has gained over a few years is undeniable. It has became a powerful and steady currency which seems to be ahead of dollar right now. It wouldn't be too outlandish to imagine what would happen in a couple of years if things go the way they are going right now: daddy bush is screwing up with his war bullcrap, the euro is getting bigger and better and China's acquisition power is growing rapidly. Will any of the

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Tuesday, December 14, 2004 5:01 AM

Here's another point I could have included : In the next 3 years Chinese will be the web's ruler not English or Spanish but Chinese will be the No-1 language of the internet

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Tuesday, December 14, 2004 6:18 AM

Can this kind of future happen between USA - China

Maybe it could

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Tuesday, December 14, 2004 7:43 AM

Some of the quotes I've posted are maybe a bit outrageous and sometimes there are a lot of doomsayers on the state of the US and its position on the global stage.

The future in Firefly is much in contrast to the one in the film BLADE RUNNER...where the future was envisioned as inevitably part-Japanese maybe German and the city dwellers spoke a mix of mashed up German/Japanese and whatever else... There is no doubt that China is growing fast and maybe Chinese will begin to exert a greater influence on the vision of our Future...it could become a dominant force. Some say the globalisation is already staring to take effect groups like Interpol and NATO can cause things to change and they work on a global level, and trading blocs like the EU, IMF and Opec to say a lot of swing. There are those West like Germany who are keen to oepn up trade of arms/weaponary to the Chinese and the US economy has also fallen back on the global stage, if the dollar does fall down further and allow other groups or nations like the Chinese to move forward it will be the fault of the current US administration and their economic policy. There are those who say this century is where China will shine, maybe it ain't science fiction afterall

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