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The Death of Dr. Who and The Last of Us
POSTED BY: 6ixStringJack
UPDATED: Monday, July 6, 2026 00:09
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Wednesday, May 28, 2025 1:34 AM
Or... how to kill two beloved IPs.
The Last of Us season two finale has lost 2 Million viewers from the Season 1 finale, roughly a 40% drop. HBO Max must have some DEI money left to keep that shitshow of a man-hating lesbian romp to continue after killing off the only thing the show had going for it, which was Pedro Pascal. Very low bar.
They had 5 years to fix their mistake, and they chose death instead.
That money will be money for Season 3 will be completely burned. People hate this boring, pointless show more than they hate the game.
The media keeps pretending that Dr. Who isn't cancelled, but it looks like Disney is pulling out of it after only 2 years. This last season of Dr. Who had lower ratings than any previous year dating back to its debut in 1963. It's on hiatus. It won't be coming back anytime soon. When and if it does, I doubt very much it will have any woke shit in it and all the current showrunners will be thrown out on their asses before they even think of starting it back up again.
Congrats to all the DEI hires doing TLOU Season 3. Save that money. You will all be out of work for a very long time once that final take wraps.
Sorry about your losses here, Brenda. I've been watching them destroy everything I enjoyed for the last 12 years myself too.
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Wednesday, May 28, 2025 4:48 AM
I'm not so worried about the "Last of US". I confess that I was only watching it for Pedro Pascal and the fact that it was filmed up here. Love seeing Alberta and for BC, see if I can tell where it was filmed. That's an old game, I used to play with X-Files.
As for the Doctor, I am sure somewhere along the line it will be brought back. It was after Peter Davison's doctor it was pulled, then again after either Colin Baker or Sylvester McCoy's run at it. Then it was brought back with Christopher Eccleston.
I will miss it to be sure but I can only watch it on DVD now, since it was moved to streaming by Disney.
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Wednesday, May 28, 2025 5:09 AM
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Originally posted by Brenda:
I'm not so worried about the "Last of US". I confess that I was only watching it for Pedro Pascal and the fact that it was filmed up here. Love seeing Alberta and for BC, see if I can tell where it was filmed. That's an old game, I used to play with X-Files.
As for the Doctor, I am sure somewhere along the line it will be brought back. It was after Peter Davison's doctor it was pulled, then again after either Colin Baker or Sylvester McCoy's run at it. Then it was brought back with Christopher Eccleston.
I will miss it to be sure but I can only watch it on DVD now, since it was moved to streaming by Disney.
Now that the seasons are over, what did you think?
Sounds like maybe you didn't even finish TLOU Season 2, or didn't care much either way about it after they did what they did to Joel. I was kind of a dick being a spoiler about that when the show first came out, but I was really hoping for anyone watching it that they would have realized what a mistake that was and change it for the show. Or at least save that for the end of Season 2 instead of really early on like they did it in the game. And for the love of God, at least give Joel a death that had a purpose, and maybe some honor.
But I felt that people who didn't know the game should know that they were going to kill Joel and it was a pointless death.
That first game was beloved. I never got around to playing it myself, but when my brother came over one day with his old XBox 360 and a stack of maybe 40 games, he told me if I only play 3 of them, play these, and the first game was in that list. In fact, it was the only one he went into any detail explaining to me. (I would have played it, but I'm more into Role Playing Games and he had about a dozen in that bag that I would have played before a stealth zombie game even if it was a great story).
Then the 2nd game comes out and every gaming "journalism" site out there gave it straight 10/10 and 100% scores. Basically the best game ever made. And it only sold 25% the amount of copies the first game made when fans of the first game rejected it outright. And they still killed Joel right toward the beginning when they made the show 5 years later.
They had 5 years to fix that whole story arch and write better dialog, but the best they could come up with was lines like the "Bigot Sandwitch", and hardly made you think that Ellie was even effected by the death of Joel with her and her girlfriend having sex and smiling all the time, and not even getting into any arguments about anything. They might as well have been the same character if it weren't for much more boring solo sex scenes that I'm sure these weirdos would have filmed too.
There are people who railed on the game non-stop for a year that are coming out and saying that at least in the game the acting was top notch and the girl playing Ellie was phenomenal, given the dialog and story she had to work with. But I'm hearing the acting in the show is just mid-tier after Joel was gone and any of the meaningful plot beats that still happened in the game were almost all essentially dropped and most of the 2nd season was just the two girls walking around and talking to each other.
....
I've never been much into Dr. Who and only saw a few episodes when Eccelson was the Dr. as far as I recall. It was fun camp when I watched it... clearly a UK production... but I could think of worse ways to burn an hour when I was channel surfing in my 20's. (They also were showing a really weird show called Lex at the time on the Sci-Fi/Sy-Fy channel that I'd also catch on occasion that was quirky as hell and I found just as enjoyable when I was couch surfing, though I never followed that one either. I think Lex might have been filmed in Canada?)
But I know a lot of people who have been very dissatisfied with that show for over 5 years now who just gave it up after watching it their whole lives. And this la
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Wednesday, May 28, 2025 10:03 AM
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Originally posted by Brenda:
I'm not so worried about the "Last of US". I confess that I was only watching it for Pedro Pascal and the fact that it was filmed up here. Love seeing Alberta and for BC, see if I can tell where it was filmed. That's an old game, I used to play with X-Files.
As for the Doctor, I am sure somewhere along the line it will be brought back. It was after Peter Davison's doctor it was pulled, then again after either Colin Baker or Sylvester McCoy's run at it. Then it was brought back with Christopher Eccleston.
I will miss it to be sure but I can only watch it on DVD now, since it was moved to streaming by Disney.
Now that the seasons are over, what did you think?
Sounds like maybe you didn't even finish TLOU Season 2, or didn't care much either way about it after they did what they did to Joel. I was kind of a dick being a spoiler about that when the show first came out, but I was really hoping for anyone watching it that they would have realized what a mistake that was and change it for the show. Or at least save that for the end of Season 2 instead of really early on like they did it in the game. And for the love of God, at least give Joel a death that had a purpose, and maybe some honor.
But I felt that people who didn't know the game should know that they were going to kill Joel and it was a pointless death.
That first game was beloved. I never got around to playing it myself, but when my brother came over one day with his old XBox 360 and a stack of maybe 40 games, he told me if I only play 3 of them, play these, and the first game was in that list. In fact, it was the only one he went into any detail explaining to me. (I would have played it, but I'm more into Role Playing Games and he had about a dozen in that bag that I would have played before a stealth zombie game even if it was a great story).
Then the 2nd game comes out and every gaming "journalism" site out there gave it straight 10/10 and 100% scores. Basically the best game ever made. And it only sold 25% the amount of copies the first game made when fans of the first game rejected it outright. And they still killed Joel right toward the beginning when they made the show 5 years later.
They had 5 years to fix that whole story arch and write better dialog, but the best they could come up with was lines like the "Bigot Sandwitch", and hardly made you think that Ellie was even effected by the death of Joel with her and her girlfriend having sex and smiling all the time, and not even getting into any arguments about anything. They might as well have been the same character if it weren't for much more boring solo sex scenes that I'm sure these weirdos would have filmed too.
There are people who railed on the game non-stop for a year that are coming out and saying that at least in the game the acting was top notch and the girl playing Ellie was phenomenal, given the dialog and story she had to work with. But I'm hearing the acting in the show is just mid-tier after Joel was gone and any of the meaningful plot beats that still happened in the game were almost all essentially dropped and most of the 2nd season was just the two girls walking around and talking to each other.
....
I've never been much into Dr. Who and only saw a few episodes when Eccelson was the Dr. as far as I recall. It was fun camp when I watched it... clearly a UK production... but I could think of worse ways to burn an hour when I was channel surfing in my 20's. (They also were showing a really weird show called Lex at the time on the Sci-Fi/Sy-Fy channel that I'd also catch on occasion that was quirky as hell and I found just as enjoyable when I was couch surfing, though I never followed that one either. I think Lex might have been filmed in Canada?)
But I know a lot of people who have been very dissatisfied with that show for over 5 years now who just gave it up afNOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Wednesday, May 28, 2025 1:17 PM
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
I'm not so worried about the "Last of US". I confess that I was only watching it for Pedro Pascal and the fact that it was filmed up here. Love seeing Alberta and for BC, see if I can tell where it was filmed. That's an old game, I used to play with X-Files.
As for the Doctor, I am sure somewhere along the line it will be brought back. It was after Peter Davison's doctor it was pulled, then again after either Colin Baker or Sylvester McCoy's run at it. Then it was brought back with Christopher Eccleston.
I will miss it to be sure but I can only watch it on DVD now, since it was moved to streaming by Disney.
Now that the seasons are over, what did you think?
Sounds like maybe you didn't even finish TLOU Season 2, or didn't care much either way about it after they did what they did to Joel. I was kind of a dick being a spoiler about that when the show first came out, but I was really hoping for anyone watching it that they would have realized what a mistake that was and change it for the show. Or at least save that for the end of Season 2 instead of really early on like they did it in the game. And for the love of God, at least give Joel a death that had a purpose, and maybe some honor.
But I felt that people who didn't know the game should know that they were going to kill Joel and it was a pointless death.
That first game was beloved. I never got around to playing it myself, but when my brother came over one day with his old XBox 360 and a stack of maybe 40 games, he told me if I only play 3 of them, play these, and the first game was in that list. In fact, it was the only one he went into any detail explaining to me. (I would have played it, but I'm more into Role Playing Games and he had about a dozen in that bag that I would have played before a stealth zombie game even if it was a great story).
Then the 2nd game comes out and every gaming "journalism" site out there gave it straight 10/10 and 100% scores. Basically the best game ever made. And it only sold 25% the amount of copies the first game made when fans of the first game rejected it outright. And they still killed Joel right toward the beginning when they made the show 5 years later.
They had 5 years to fix that whole story arch and write better dialog, but the best they could come up with was lines like the "Bigot Sandwitch", and hardly made you think that Ellie was even effected by the death of Joel with her and her girlfriend having sex and smiling all the time, and not even getting into any arguments about anything. They might as well have been the same character if it weren't for much more boring solo sex scenes that I'm sure these weirdos would have filmed too.
There are people who railed on the game non-stop for a year that are coming out and saying that at least in the game the acting was top notch and the girl playing Ellie was phenomenal, given the dialog and story she had to work with. But I'm hearing the acting in the show is just mid-tier after Joel was gone and any of the meaningful plot beats that still happened in the game were almost all essentially dropped and most of the 2nd season was just the two girls walking around and talking to each other.
....
I've never been much into Dr. Who and only saw a few episodes when Eccelson was the Dr. as far as I recall. It was fun camp when I watched it... clearly a UK production... but I could think of worse ways to burn an hour when I was channel surfing in my 20's. (They also were showing a really weird show called Lex at the time on the Sci-Fi/Sy-Fy channel that I'd also catch on occasion that was quirky as hell and I found just as enjoyable when I was couch surfing, though I never followed that one either. I think Lex might have been filmed in Canada?)
But I know a lot of people who have been very dissatisfied with that show forNOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Thursday, May 29, 2025 3:17 AM
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Originally posted by Brenda:Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
I'm not so worried about the "Last of US". I confess that I was only watching it for Pedro Pascal and the fact that it was filmed up here. Love seeing Alberta and for BC, see if I can tell where it was filmed. That's an old game, I used to play with X-Files.
As for the Doctor, I am sure somewhere along the line it will be brought back. It was after Peter Davison's doctor it was pulled, then again after either Colin Baker or Sylvester McCoy's run at it. Then it was brought back with Christopher Eccleston.
I will miss it to be sure but I can only watch it on DVD now, since it was moved to streaming by Disney.
Now that the seasons are over, what did you think?
Sounds like maybe you didn't even finish TLOU Season 2, or didn't care much either way about it after they did what they did to Joel. I was kind of a dick being a spoiler about that when the show first came out, but I was really hoping for anyone watching it that they would have realized what a mistake that was and change it for the show. Or at least save that for the end of Season 2 instead of really early on like they did it in the game. And for the love of God, at least give Joel a death that had a purpose, and maybe some honor.
But I felt that people who didn't know the game should know that they were going to kill Joel and it was a pointless death.
That first game was beloved. I never got around to playing it myself, but when my brother came over one day with his old XBox 360 and a stack of maybe 40 games, he told me if I only play 3 of them, play these, and the first game was in that list. In fact, it was the only one he went into any detail explaining to me. (I would have played it, but I'm more into Role Playing Games and he had about a dozen in that bag that I would have played before a stealth zombie game even if it was a great story).
Then the 2nd game comes out and every gaming "journalism" site out there gave it straight 10/10 and 100% scores. Basically the best game ever made. And it only sold 25% the amount of copies the first game made when fans of the first game rejected it outright. And they still killed Joel right toward the beginning when they made the show 5 years later.
They had 5 years to fix that whole story arch and write better dialog, but the best they could come up with was lines like the "Bigot Sandwitch", and hardly made you think that Ellie was even effected by the death of Joel with her and her girlfriend having sex and smiling all the time, and not even getting into any arguments about anything. They might as well have been the same character if it weren't for much more boring solo sex scenes that I'm sure these weirdos would have filmed too.
There are people who railed on the game non-stop for a year that are coming out and saying that at least in the game the acting was top notch and the girl playing Ellie was phenomenal, given the dialog and story she had to work with. But I'm hearing the acting in the show is just mid-tier after Joel was gone and any of the meaningful plot beats that still happened in the game were almost all essentially dropped and most of the 2nd season was just the two girls walking around and talking to each other.
....
I've never been much into Dr. Who and only saw a few episodes when Eccelson was the Dr. as far as I recall. It was fun camp when I watched it... clearly a UK production... but I could think of worse ways to burn an hour when I was channel surfing in my 20's. (They also were showing a really weird show called Lex at the time on the Sci-Fi/Sy-Fy channel that I'd also catch on occasion that was quirky as hell and I found just as enjoyable when I was couch surfing, though I never followed that one either. I think Lex might have been filmed in Canada?)
But I know a lot of people whoNOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Thursday, May 29, 2025 8:35 AM
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Originally posted by Brenda:
I'm not so worried about the "Last of US". I confess that I was only watching it for Pedro Pascal and the fact that it was filmed up here. Love seeing Alberta and for BC, see if I can tell where it was filmed. That's an old game, I used to play with X-Files.
X-Files would have been during my party day hiatus from video games. I never played one of those. Was that a Playstation game?
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As for the Doctor, I am sure somewhere along the line it will be brought back. It was after Peter Davison's doctor it was pulled, then again after either Colin Baker or Sylvester McCoy's run at it. Then it was brought back with Christopher Eccleston.
Yeah. Given the history I'm sure it will be at some point. I actually knew that it was a huge comeback when I was watching Christopher Eccleston. I don't remember if that's because the Sci-Fi channel talked about it, or because I looked it up while I was at work after seeing it. I know when I saw it it was still probably 2 or 3 years before I had any internet outside of work or school still.
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No worries. Like said what attracted me to the show was Pedro and the fact it is filmed in BC and Alberta. Will let you know.
I know Adam Baldwin has done some voice acting over the years but without checking his page on the movie thing, I couldn't tell you what. I may have mentioned that video games are bad for me. I like them and played through high school but that was all before. I even had a nintendo and a Mario brothers game that I used to play every once in a while. I got rid of it because I wasn't using it enough.
Bad for you because of the flashing? Yeah... A lot of those old games did a TON of that and we thought nothing of it until there were all those stories of kids watching that Pokemon cartoon and having seizures. From what I've seen and what I've heard, they are very, very sensitive about making sure that people with epilepsy are taken into account with these games now. If they're not outright games without any flashing, there's usually "accessibility" options under the hood to turn off any form of flashing in the game for somebody who shouldn't be exposed to it. I haven't played many new games in the last 10 years, but I've seen that from time to time myself when I'm in menus. Not just in the really expensive triple A games, but the $!0 and $20 dollar games made by indie teams are doing it too.
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From your description of Lexx, I think I do remember it now. Never watched it unless I caught just pieces of it channel surfing for me or my mum.
Yeah... it was so weird. The "main" guy was like 20 years older than he should have been given all the weird sex-adjacent stuff that was along for the ride on whatever romp of the week was going on. He's like maybe the captian or the only one that was even close to fit to being in that role, but he was pretty much a dufus himself too. The sexual tension actually made it even more funny and absurd because it's like a sci-fi show where everyone should be on their best behavior, but this guy is like Benny Hill in space. But then he wasn't always like that and if memory serves the crew actually did care about each other beyond a superficial level (although nowhere near the real ties you saw in Firefly). It wasn't even a softcore porn thing, if you can overlook the fact that the titular character LEXX was wearing quite the revealing outfit every show. But really... I don't think it was any different than what the blond girl on Land of the Lost was wearing around the same time, and they were putting that show on with Saturday Morning Cartoons. Just a lot of innuendo surrounding everything.
Pretty much just take any Sci-Fi show you've ever seen on a ship, and make everything quasi-sexual and parody of it's genre to the point of perpetual absurdity and put a Benny Hill knock off up there with them and you&
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Thursday, May 29, 2025 10:34 AM
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
I'm not so worried about the "Last of US". I confess that I was only watching it for Pedro Pascal and the fact that it was filmed up here. Love seeing Alberta and for BC, see if I can tell where it was filmed. That's an old game, I used to play with X-Files.
X-Files would have been during my party day hiatus from video games. I never played one of those. Was that a Playstation game?Quote:
As for the Doctor, I am sure somewhere along the line it will be brought back. It was after Peter Davison's doctor it was pulled, then again after either Colin Baker or Sylvester McCoy's run at it. Then it was brought back with Christopher Eccleston.
Yeah. Given the history I'm sure it will be at some point. I actually knew that it was a huge comeback when I was watching Christopher Eccleston. I don't remember if that's because the Sci-Fi channel talked about it, or because I looked it up while I was at work after seeing it. I know when I saw it it was still probably 2 or 3 years before I had any internet outside of work or school still.Quote:
No worries. Like said what attracted me to the show was Pedro and the fact it is filmed in BC and Alberta. Will let you know.
I know Adam Baldwin has done some voice acting over the years but without checking his page on the movie thing, I couldn't tell you what. I may have mentioned that video games are bad for me. I like them and played through high school but that was all before. I even had a nintendo and a Mario brothers game that I used to play every once in a while. I got rid of it because I wasn't using it enough.
Bad for you because of the flashing? Yeah... A lot of those old games did a TON of that and we thought nothing of it until there were all those stories of kids watching that Pokemon cartoon and having seizures. From what I've seen and what I've heard, they are very, very sensitive about making sure that people with epilepsy are taken into account with these games now. If they're not outright games without any flashing, there's usually "accessibility" options under the hood to turn off any form of flashing in the game for somebody who shouldn't be exposed to it. I haven't played many new games in the last 10 years, but I've seen that from time to time myself when I'm in menus. Not just in the really expensive triple A games, but the $!0 and $20 dollar games made by indie teams are doing it too.Quote:
From your description of Lexx, I think I do remember it now. Never watched it unless I caught just pieces of it channel surfing for me or my mum.
Yeah... it was so weird. The "main" guy was like 20 years older than he should have been given all the weird sex-adjacent stuff that was along for the ride on whatever romp of the week was going on. He's like maybe the captian or the only one that was even close to fit to being in that role, but he was pretty much a dufus himself too. The sexual tension actually made it even more funny and absurd because it's like a sci-fi show where everyone should be on their best behavior, but this guy is like Benny Hill in space. But then he wasn't always like that and if memory serves the crew actually did care about each other beyond a superficial level (although nowhere near the real ties you saw in Firefly). It wasn't even a softcore porn thing, if you can overlook the fact that the titular character LEXX was wearing quite the revealing outfit every show. But really... I don't think it was any different than what the blond girl on Land of the Lost was wearing around the same time, and they were putting that show on with Saturday Morning Cartoons. Just a lot of innuendo surrounding everything.
Pretty much just take any Sci-Fi show you've ever seen on a ship, and make everything quasi-sexual and parody of it's genre to the point of perpetual absurdity and put a BNOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Thursday, May 29, 2025 4:11 PM
Scifi has been dying a while
it seems to have been dying before Trump 2.0 or Biden and Kamala or Trump Pence....endless remakes
the good thing about Firefly while the Reavers were 'Savages' it didnt really demonize anyone, it did not single out a culture or ethnic group, it wasn't really forcing a political message and it did not overly mock any peoples or cultures, you would take what you wished from Firefly and Serenity
now its another Star Wars and Star Trek revamp, let's put in more SJW transexual diverse pro islamo open border messages and tell a story almost the same way but force more politics into it
Scifi it moves away to the comicbook fantasy while the otehr scifi moves closer to reality, Dystopia themes, as humans on this Earth seem to be getting AI, and robots, not too different
and now they say LOVE, DEATH & ROBOTS Volume 4 Is Terrible
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Monday, June 2, 2025 2:17 PM
so they will move on and destroy the Bond legacy
they want Billie Piper back to save the brand
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-14769203/Doctor-fans-spo
t-huge-problem-Billie-Piper-reveal.html
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