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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again

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Friday, February 25, 2022 8:25 PM

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Hey T - good to see you as well. I've checked in from time to time, but sadly nothing ever seems to change. Same broken logic, same idiocy, same lack of any intelligent discussion. Just stupid blah blah and repeat. We'll see.

You might think this is a satirical story from The Onion, but it is the New York Times:

Putin Threatens Nuclear War Against The Planet, As Experts Question His Sanity

Putin made clear his true target is America’s “empire of lies,” and he threatened “consequences you have never faced in your history” for “anyone who tries to interfere with us.”

Given Russia’s nuclear arsenal, he said, “there should be no doubt that any potential aggressor will face defeat and ominous consequences should it directly attack our country.” He added: “All necessary decisions have been taken in this regard.”

https://web.archive.org/web/20220225074515/https://www.nytimes.com/202
2/02/24/world/europe/us-putin-nuclear-war-nato.html


Somebody needs to talk to Putin like Mal talked to the Operative in Serenity: "You do that, best make peace with your dear and fluffy lord."

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, February 25, 2022 8:48 PM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:

Hey T - good to see you as well. I've checked in from time to time, but sadly nothing ever seems to change. Same broken logic, same idiocy, same lack of any intelligent discussion. Just stupid blah blah and repeat. We'll see.

You might think this is a satirical story from The Onion, but it is the New York Times:

Putin Threatens Nuclear War Against The Planet, As Experts Question His Sanity

Putin made clear his true target is America’s “empire of lies,” and he threatened “consequences you have never faced in your history” for “anyone who tries to interfere with us.”

Given Russia’s nuclear arsenal, he said, “there should be no doubt that any potential aggressor will face defeat and ominous consequences should it directly attack our country.” He added: “All necessary decisions have been taken in this regard.”

https://web.archive.org/web/20220225074515/https://www.nytimes.com/202
2/02/24/world/europe/us-putin-nuclear-war-nato.html


Somebody needs to talk to Putin like Mal talked to the Operative in Serenity: "You do that, best make peace with your dear and fluffy lord."

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two



Bull, when the war is over in Ukraine in a few weeks the EU will want to be friends with Vlad again and he knows this.

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Friday, February 25, 2022 9:32 PM

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Bull, when the war is over in Ukraine in a few weeks the EU will want to be friends with Vlad again and he knows this.

I think Ukraine has already lost. The President of Ukraine just hasn't fled, yet, but this guy was NOT ready. Even last week he would not admit war was about to happen to him.

The governments of the EU which are actually controlled by the richest 1% of population will very possibly want to be friends with Putin, next year, because to permanently stop trading with Russia would reduce the wealth of the 1% wealthiest. As for the rest of voters, they don't want the high fuel prices and shortages caused by not trading with Russia, and they will express themselves when voting.

To see EU actually blow up the Kremlin and Putin? That would be too disruptive for EU to even think about it. They'd worry about who'd replace Putin. Much easier for America to give some anti-tank weapons to Ukraine and the EU be disappointed when Ukrainian soldiers use a few of the missiles and then resell the rest for a profit after fleeing Ukraine.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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THG
Friday, February 25, 2022 9:37 PM

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What an evil selfish prick Putin is. Does anyone but him benefit from this? And now? After 2 years of covid crap? Kill thousands and crash the world economy so he can redraw a MAP?!?? What fcking dinosaur. I look forward to watching this blow up in his face.






Hey G. Can you stick around a bit? It would be so so good to have another sane person keeping tabs on this. Also, its' good to see you're good.

T





Hey T - good to see you as well. I've checked in from time to time, but sadly nothing ever seems to change. Same broken logic, same idiocy, same lack of any intelligent discussion. Just stupid blah blah and repeat. We'll see.





I hear you G. Truth be told I could chose to leave tomorrow, but for today I’m here.

I have long dispelled any notion of a firefly reboot G but with Disney now owning it there is hope. Disney is up to its neck in space shows. If it is rebooted this site will bang back to life unless all that are left are trolls. If there is to be a reboot it may not be too long off. Pushing back against the trolls may be what’s needed at the moment to allow a fireflyfans reboot as well.


T


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Friday, February 25, 2022 10:17 PM

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I think Ukraine has already lost. The President of Ukraine just hasn't fled, yet, but this guy was NOT ready. Even last week he would not admit war was about to happen to him.

The governments of the EU which are actually controlled by the richest 1% of population will very possibly want to be friends with Putin, next year, because to permanently stop trading with Russia would reduce the wealth of the 1% wealthiest. As for the rest of voters, they don't want the high fuel prices and shortages caused by not trading with Russia, and they will express themselves when voting.

To see EU actually blow up the Kremlin and Putin? That would be too disruptive for EU to even think about it. They'd worry about who'd replace Putin. Much easier for America to give some anti-tank weapons to Ukraine and the EU be disappointed when Ukrainian soldiers use a few of the missiles and then resell the rest for a profit after fleeing Ukraine.



That's the spirit, second!

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Friday, February 25, 2022 10:18 PM

‘This might be the last time you see me alive,’ Ukrainian president says.

Zelenskyy said in the same speech that he was “target No. 1” for Russian forces.

Zelenskyy said his family was target No. 2.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-ukraine-live-updates-this-
might-be-the-last-time-you-see-me-alive-ukrainian-president-says/ar-AAUax9O


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, February 25, 2022 10:48 PM

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Originally posted by THG:
I hear you G. Truth be told I could chose to leave tomorrow, but for today I’m here.

I have long dispelled any notion of a firefly reboot G but with Disney now owning it there is hope. Disney is up to its neck in space shows. If it is rebooted this site will bang back to life unless all that are left are trolls. If there is to be a reboot it may not be too long off. Pushing back against the trolls may be what’s needed at the moment to allow a fireflyfans reboot as well.



1. Disney destroys everything it touches. If Disney reboots firefly, it won't have more than one season, and this time it will be well earned.

2. You need to get it out of your head that you are special or important. You are neither. None of us are. Nobody here is keeping a Firefly reboot from being made, and nobody here is going to do anything to make sure that one is made.

3. If this site stays up for the long haul, history will show that you were on the wrong side the whole time. You are not the good guy.

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Friday, February 25, 2022 11:05 PM

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That's the spirit, second!

It is NOT MUCH, but at least somebody will do something . . . 3 months from now:

UEFA moves Champions League Final from St. Petersburg Russia as sporting world reacts to Russian invasion of Ukraine. The game will be May 28, a little too late to discourage Putin. Is UEFA kicking all the Russian teams out of the sport? No, it is not. Also, a Formula 1 race will not be held in Russia on September 23-25. Truly a crushing blow to Putin. No, it is not. Will all Russian cars be kicked out of all races? No.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/25/sport/champions-league-final-russia-ukr
aine-sport-reaction-spt-intl/index.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, February 25, 2022 11:22 PM

Why the US won’t send troops to Ukraine

In 1990, Iraq invaded Kuwait in a naked war of territorial aggression. The next year, the US and an allied coalition intervened under the auspices of the United Nations Security Council, repulsing the Iraqi invasion. Today, as Russia is engaged in a similar aggressive war against Ukraine, there is no similar American effort in the offing — even as Ukrainian leaders have pleaded for Western assistance. Not gonna get it.

There are many dissimilarities between the situations in 1991 and 2022, but the biggest one is this: Saddam Hussein, rather famously, did not have nuclear weapons. Vladimir Putin has approximately 6,000 of them. And that makes all the difference.

Both before the invasion and afterward, the Biden administration has consistently ruled out the deployment of US troops. “Let me say it again: Our forces are not — and will not — be engaged in the conflict with Russia in Ukraine,” the president said in a Thursday address. Despite the warnings of American involvement from commentators on the Trumpist right and “anti-imperialist” left, there are no signs of this policy changing. Nuclear weapons are the chief reason why.

The logic of mutually assured destruction that defined the Cold War still works, to some degree: Russia’s arsenal makes any direct intervention in Ukraine riskier than any rational American leader could tolerate. In a sense, then, Russia’s nuclear weapons make it less likely that the conflict will kick off World War III.

But in another sense, Russia’s nuclear arsenal also helped create the conditions where Putin’s invasion could happen in the first place.

Political scientists call this the “stability-instability paradox,” the notion that nuclear deterrence has had the paradoxical effect of making certain kinds of conventional warfare more likely. Russia can be relatively confident that the United States and its allies won’t come to Ukraine’s defense directly, because such a clash carries the threat of nuclear war. This could make Putin more confident that his invasion could succeed.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2022/2/25/22949351/ukraine-rus
sia-us-troops-no-fly-zone-nuclear-weapons


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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THG
Friday, February 25, 2022 11:34 PM

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Originally posted by second:

‘This might be the last time you see me alive,’ Ukrainian president says.

Zelenskyy said in the same speech that he was “target No. 1” for Russian forces.

Zelenskyy said his family was target No. 2.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-ukraine-live-updates-this-
might-be-the-last-time-you-see-me-alive-ukrainian-president-says/ar-AAUax9O







If they get him, it is because he is an ass. Everybody but him seemed to realize you can't set up shop in a city that can be quickly taken over. That same stupidity kept him telling his people Russia won't invade. At first maybe to keep calm but even then, he should have had them prepare.

T


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