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Saturday, March 20, 2021 10:16 AM

This is a bit of a placeholder for links and more info.

On interview with George Stephanopoulos ABC, Biden agreed that Putin was a "killer". I heard a few things about that interview. One was that George was leading Biden with every question.

The other is that when Biden described the conversation he supposedly had with Putin, he was VP and there was no way that control-freak Obama would have authorized his VP to have any such conversation.

I've been trying to find the complete interview and will post what I find.

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Anyway, calling another world leader a "killer" is an unprecedented shit show.

What did Biden* hope to accomplish?

Well, he wanted to look like a tough guy for domestic audience.

And he* put a stake thru the heart of future relations with Russia. Russia has responded by pretty much ending automatic response to USA proposals. Mission accomplished! But why?









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Saturday, March 20, 2021 10:37 AM


Biden also seems to be picking a fight with China as well, if you believe the news.

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Saturday, March 20, 2021 12:27 PM

I couldn't find a video of the entire interview, but I found a transcript.


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TRANSCRIPT: ABC News' George Stephanopoulos interviews President Joe Biden

The exclusive interview with President Biden took place on March 16, 2021.
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On Tuesday, March 16, 2021, ABC News' George Stephanopoulos interviewed President Joe Biden. The following is a transcript of the interview (this transcript has been edited for clarity):

GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: So you've set out your goals for the country. 100 million vaccine doses by next week, $100 million out the door. Every American eligible for the vaccine by -- adult American by May 1st. Something close to normal on July 4th. But tell everyone, when is everything going to be normal for Americans?

PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: Well, first of all, I won't even be able to meet the July 4th deadline unless people listen, wear masks, wash their hands and socially distance because not everyone by July 4th will have been vaccinated. There's enough vaccine -- I -- we-- we've been able to purchase enough vaccine, George, with a lotta -- a lotta heavy liftin' for over six hundred -- well over 600 million doses to take care of more than 300 million Americans, some of 'em single dose.

But I hope that what I'm reading about 30% of Republican men say they won't get the vaccine and people are talkin' about whether they ne-- I mean, you have to-- one, when-- when it's available to, get the vaccine, number one. Number two, stay socially distanced. Number three, wear a mask when you're out in public. And we'll get by this and we'll get by it much quicker than we otherwise --

GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: Would it help --

PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: -- would.

GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: -- if President Trump told the Republican men to get a vaccine?

PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: I have no idea what kind of influence he has anymore. I'm not bein' facetious. I just don't know, George. He got the vaccine. He got the vaccine before he -- he left Washington. And so I hope people understand. Now, one of the hardest things we're doin', George, is in communities not far from here, there's a lot of poor communities that don't have access to a lot of opportunities. They've been hit very hard by the COVID experience.

They've been dying at -- at more rapid rate when they contract it. They contract at a more rapid rate than the white community. And that's why we opened up to tens of thousands of drug stores across the country because there's many in almost every neighborhood, and federal health clinics that are in the areas, that are in the most hard-hit areas. So we gotta reach out and make sure people who either don't have computers, don't know how to get online -- that they're able to get the vaccine.

GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: How do you get the politics out of this vaccine talk?

PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: I honest to God thought we had it out. I honest to God thought that, once we -- we guaranteed we had enough vaccine for everybody, things would start to calm down. Well, they have calmed down a great deal. But I don't quite understand, you know, the sorta -- I don't wanna -- I just don't understand this sort of macho thing about, "I'm not gonna get the vaccine. I have a right as an American, my freedom to not do it." Well, why don't you be a patriot? Protect other people.

GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: How about emphasizing the positive. How has life changed for you since you got the vaccine?

PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: Well, it's changed because I can hug my grandkids now. They come over to the house. I can see them. I'm able to be with them. I've had th

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Saturday, March 20, 2021 12:45 PM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Biden also seems to be picking a fight with China as well, if you believe the news.




Well, the Biden* administration levied a bunch of sanctions against Hong Kong and Chinese officials right before a very high-level meeting between USA and Chinese officials on Alaska.
And then began the meeting by lecturing the Chinese on "human rights", which - if one is to take the Chinese official reaction seriously, pissed off the Chinese as much as the Russians were pissed off.

So to go back to "why"?

It was easy to see what Trump was doing: He intended to split Russia from China by being hard on China and soft on Russia.

I assumed that the Biden* administration would be trying to split China from Russia by being soft on China and pressuring Russia.

But it looks like the Biden* administrtion is intending to piss off BOTH Russia and China at the same time. What can they possibly hope to achieve with THAT?

A few possibilities come to mind:

There is no fearless leader at the helm, and so different factions are fighting over foreign policy. I've read that some in the Atlantic Council floated a "softer on Russia" paper which was roundly criticized; possibly that is a visible part of one faction. But I would have to look specifically at who initiated both pissing matches. If it's the same person, then that's not the problem.

They're all nuts and jonesing for war, bc that's the only move left after you've bankrupted your economy and your nation. I can't imagine what they think thet would get them, bc clearly the USA would lose against a combined enemy. Unless they just want to kill off the world in a blinding nuclear flash, and they'll emerge from their hidey-holes later.

They have another plan besides military: Perhaps adopting the SDR as the international currency, leaving China (and Japan) holding the bag on USA debt.

Two of the parties (USA and China) are conspiring to make it LOOK like a big blow up, only leading to eventual reconciliation, leaving Russia in the ditch.

Obviously, needs more thought. But pissing off Russia and China and driving them into eachother's arms even more doesn't make any sense whatsoever.


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Saturday, March 20, 2021 11:39 PM

Everybody knew this foreign policy long before November, right?


I was going to post about this, but not the Biden part, the Putin response instead.

After the Fake News insults, Putin challenged Lord Darth Biden to a Live Online Discussion.

Checkmate.

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Sunday, March 21, 2021 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:

And he* put a stake thru the heart of future relations with Russia. Russia has responded by pretty much ending automatic response to USA proposals. Mission accomplished! But why?

I'm pretty sure Russia's only positive future contribution to the world will be to not nuke it. Couldn't Russia do more than that? Well, it could positively avoid destroying the world's climate by not releasing as much buried methane as possible, but that is also along the lines of not nuking the world. In contrast to Biden, Trump must think Russia can do more than NOT murdering the world, but Trump doesn't make clear what those good Russian deeds will be, other than not invading other countries, not stealing their land, and not killing civilians. Even Trump doesn't expect Russia to accomplish much of anything positive. With Russia it is all about hoping Russians don't deliberately make the world worse just because Russians are angry and feel disrespected and bad about themselves:

Sept. 3, 2020
President Trump on Thursday reiterated his desire to “get along” with Moscow despite an international uproar over the poisoning of the Russian dissident Aleksei A. Navalny with a deadly nerve agent, saying that when the subject of Russia appears on the news, he turns it off.

Speaking at a small campaign rally in Latrobe, Pa., Mr. Trump did not mention Mr. Navalny on a day when his press secretary issued a stern statement about the apparent assassination attempt against the dissident, who is the most prominent domestic critic of President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia. Nor did he address new warnings from his own intelligence officials that Russia is seeking to interfere in the 2020 election on his behalf.

Instead, he boasted that he had kept the United States “out of wars,” and he pointed to his persistent efforts to thaw relations between Washington and Moscow. “It’s good that I get along,” Mr. Trump said. “If I get along with Russia, is that a good thing or bad thing? I think it’s a good thing.”

His remarks came hours after the White House press secretary, Kayleigh McEnany, called Mr. Navalny’s poisoning “deeply reprehensible” and said the United States would “hold those in Russia accountable wherever the evidence leads.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/03/us/politics/trump-russia-navalny-po
isoning.html


I can see why Russians feel bad about themselves. They are far down on the list at #50, ahead of Malaysia at 51 or Oman at 51 in a slightly different list.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capit
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, March 21, 2021 12:57 AM

Biden said he would end wars before the election?




Representative Ro Khanna Explains Why He Called Out Biden’s Air Strike in Syria

https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/ro-khanna-syria-biden/

Biden needs a Syria policy to fix the many mistakes made by both Trump and Obama
https://www.kansascity.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/syndicated-column
ists/article250003349.html


Biden’s liberal allies call out administration’s foreign policy decisions
https://news.yahoo.com/biden-liberal-allies-call-administration-191757
646.html


10 years into Syrian civil war, warning of 'catastrophic' conditions in last rebel stronghold of Idlib
https://abcnews.go.com/International/10-years-syrian-civil-war-warning
-catastrophic-conditions/story?id=76489781



Biden Needs a Syria Policy to Fix Trump and Obama Mistakes

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2021-03-17/syrian-uprising-
10-year-anniversary-biden-must-rectify-trump-obama-failings


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The unrest in Syria, which began on 15 March 2011 as part of the wider 2011 Arab Spring protests, grew out of discontent with the Syrian government and escalated to an armed conflict after protests calling for Assad's removal were violently suppressed. The war is being fought by several factions: the Syrian Armed Forces and its domestic and international allies, a loose alliance of mostly Sunni opposition rebel groups (such as the Free Syrian Army), Salafi jihadist groups (including al-Nusra Front and Tahrir al-Sham), the mixed Kurdish-Arab Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), and the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL). A number of foreign countries, such as Iran, Israel, Russia, Turkey, and the United States, have either directly involved themselves in the conflict or provided support to one or another faction.




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_civil_war

The Syrian War began in March 2011 with the simultaneous uprisings in many Mideast countries which Western media and the US State Department called the 'Arab Spring'. However the belligerent forces by the second year were largely non-state combatants and veterans of the Iraqi insurgency (mercenaries). Since the start of the war over 400,000 people have been killed

https://conservapedia.com/Syrian_War

The Syrian Civil War refers to the ongoing armed civil war in Syria. It began in 2011 (you read that right, this has been going on for ten years) during the Arab Spring. Unrest and protests provoked a violent crackdown by the Bashar al-Assad regime, and this action led to an all-out uprising. Unfortunately, things got even worse when other factions joined the fight, including a variety of competing Islamist terrorist groups. The civil war has also become internationalized, with Russia and Iran lending material and military support to the regime while Turkey and the United States-led international coalition oppose both the regime and the terrorist groups.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Syrian_Civil_War

The Syrian civil war has received significant international attention, and both the Syrian government and the opposition have received support, militarily and diplomatically, from foreign countries.

https://military.wikia.org/wiki/Syrian_Civil_War

By July 2013, the Syrian economy has shrunk 45 percent since the start of the conflict. Unemployment increased fivefold, the value of the Syrian currency decreased to one-sixth its pre-war value, and the public sector lost 15 billion US dollars

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Sunday, March 21, 2021 12:34 PM

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SECONDRATE I'm pretty sure Russia's only positive future contribution to the world will be to not nuke it. Couldn't Russia do more than that? Well, it could positively avoid destroying the world's climate by not releasing as much buried methane as possible, but that is also along the lines of not nuking the world. In contrast to Biden, Trump must think Russia can do more than NOT murdering the world, but Trump doesn't make clear what those good Russian deeds will be, other than not invading other countries, not stealing their land, and not killing civilians.
Last I looked, it was the USA invading and destroying other nations. Can you say the same about Russia?

So, what do you make of the apparent effort to piss off both Russia AND China at the same time?



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Sunday, September 4, 2022 5:41 AM

Hunter Biden: Republican Accuses Treasury of Running Cover for Biden Family

https://www.newsweek.com/hunter-biden-republican-accuses-treasury-runn
ing-cover-biden-family-1739673


Hunter Biden did what now

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Saturday, July 8, 2023 4:57 PM

Biden admin failed to plan for disastrous Afghanistan exit: officials

https://nypost.com/2023/06/30/biden-admin-failed-to-plan-for-disastrou
s-afghanistan-exit-officials
/


UN Report Warns Al-Qaida, Islamic State Growing in Afghanistan

https://www.voanews.com/a/un-report-warns-al-qaida-islamic-state-growi
ng-in-afghanistan/7138133.html



UN report shows al Qaeda and Taliban ties remain strong, warns of ISIS threat

https://www.foxnews.com/world/un-report-shows-al-qaeda-taliban-ties-re
main-strong-warns-isis-threat

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