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compilation of 2020 election and vote threads - please add any I missed - & misc posts

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1KIKI

Wednesday, February 24, 2021 3:32 AM

1KIKI

Wednesday, February 24, 2021 4:22 AM

Justice Clarence Thomas Dissents From Supreme Court On Election Case: ‘We Need to Make It Clear’
https://www.nationandstate.com/2021/02/22/justice-clarence-thomas-diss
ents-from-supreme-court-on-election-case-we-need-to-make-it-clear/

The court on Monday announced it won’t take up lawsuits challenging a Pennsylvania state court decision that relaxed ballot-integrity measures, including a move to extend the ballot-receipt deadline during the November election by three days ...

“This is not a prescription for confidence,” Thomas wrote on Monday, adding that “changing the rules in the middle of the game is bad enough.” Thomas, considered by many to be the most conservative justice, said the court should have granted a review.

“That decision to rewrite the rules seems to have affected too few ballots to change the outcome of any federal election. But that may not be the case in the future,” Thomas wrote (pdf). “These cases provide us with an ideal opportunity to address just what authority non-legislative officials have to set election rules, and to do so well before the next election cycle. The refusal to do so is inexplicable.”

Other than Thomas, Justices Samuel Alito and Neil Gorsuch also dissented.

“If state officials have the authority they have claimed, we need to make it clear. If not, we need to put an end to this practice now before the consequences become catastrophic,” Thomas, an appointee of former President George H.W. Bush, also wrote.

“We are fortunate that many of the cases we have seen alleged only improper rule changes, not fraud,” Thomas wrote. “But that observation provides only small comfort. An election free from strong evidence of systemic fraud is not alone sufficient for election confidence. Also important is the assurance that fraud will not go undetected.”

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Thomas, dissenting opinion

Elections are “of the most fundamental significance under our constitutional structure.” See Illinois Bd. of Elections v. Socialist Workers Party, 440 U. S. 173, 184 (1979). Through them, we exercise self-government. But elections enable self-governance only when they include processes that “giv[e] citizens (including the losing candidates and their supporters) confidence in the fairness of the election.” See Democratic National Committee v. Wisconsin State Legislature, ante, at 3 (KAVANAUGH, J., concurring in denial of application to vacate stay); accord, Purcell v. Gonzalez, 549 U.S. 1, 4 (2006) (per curiam) (“Confidence in the integrity of our electoral processes is essential to the functioning of our participatory democracy”). Unclear rules threaten to undermine this system. They sow confusion and ultimately dampen confidence in the integrity and fairness of elections. To prevent confusion, we have thus repeatedly — although not as consistently as we should — blocked rule changes made by courts close to an election.

An election system lacks clear rules when, as here, different officials dispute who has authority to set or change those rules. This kind of dispute brews confusion because voters may not know which rules to follow. Even worse, with more than one system of rules in place, competing candidates might each declare victory under different sets of rules. We are fortunate that the Pennsylvania Supreme Court’s decision to change the receipt deadline for mail-in ballots does not appear to have changed the outcome in any federal election. This Court ordered the county boards to segregate ballots received later than the deadline set by the legislature. Order in Republican Party of Pa. v. Boockvar, No. 20A84. And none of the parties contend that those ballots made an outcome-determinative difference in any relevant federal election. But we may not be so lucky in the future. Indeed, a separate decision by the Pennsylvania Supreme Court may have already altered an election result. A different petition argues that after election day the Pennsylvania Supreme Court nullified the legislativ

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1KIKI

Wednesday, February 24, 2021 4:26 AM

Meanwhile, I would hope THIS lawsuit goes to a public conclusion rather than private settlement. There's a lot to unpack here, including private censorship of public political opinion. But if Mike Lindell has 'all the evidence' of a rigged election that he claims to have, it would be a welcome treasure-trove of information.

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"I Have All The Evidence On Them": MyPillow CEO Lindell Welcomes $1.3 Billion Dominion Lawsuit

Monday, Feb 22, 2021 - 18:20

Dominion Voting Systems is suing Trump supporter Mike Lindell and his company, MyPillow, for $1.3 billion, after the Minnesota-based CEO accused the company of rigging the election for President Biden.

The suit was filed in the US District Court for the District of Columbia, in which Dominion claims that Lindell's statements, social media posts, and a two-hour film he helped produce are false, according to the Wall Street Journal.

"Despite repeated warnings and efforts to share the facts with him, Mr. Lindell has continued to maliciously spread false claims about Dominion, each time giving empty assurances that he would come forward with overwhelming proof," said Dominion CEO John Poulos in a Monday statement to reporters.

Dominion alleges that Lindell knew that 'no credible evidence' supported his claims about election integrity, writing in the complaint: "He is well aware of the independent audits and paper ballot recounts conclusively disproving the Big Lie," adding "But Lindell…sells the lie to this day because the lie sells pillows."

Actually, Lindell's activism has resulted in more than a handful of major retailers dropping his products altogether.

Lindell welcomes the lawsuit, saying in a Monday interview: "I have all the evidence on them," adding "Now this will get disclosed faster, all the machine fraud and the attack on our country."

Dominion’s lawsuit accuses Mr. Lindell of repeatedly and falsely alleging that algorithms in Dominion’s voting machines had stolen votes from Mr. Trump. It said he had undertaken a marketing campaign for the pillow company based on his support for Mr. Trump and the former president’s claims that the election had been stolen from him.

Dominion says the allegations by Mr. Lindell and others have irreparably damaged its reputation, jeopardized its contracts with state and local governments, and prompted death threats and harassment against employees. The company says it supplies election equipment used by more than 40% of U.S. voters. -Wall Street Journal

Last month, Dominion filed lawsuits against Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani and pro-Trujmp attorney Sidney Powell. Giuliani has said he will use the lawsuit to continue investigating Dominion, and claims the suit is an attempt to censor him. Powell says she hasn't published any statements she knew to be false, and that she has credible evidence.

Beyond that, Dominion has sent letters to multiple media outlets over their coverage - which ostensibly caused a Newsmax anchor to storm off the set of an interview with Lindell earlier this month.

Newsmax just censored Mike Lindell.

I’m done with @newsmax pic.twitter.com/aDKRBiRLGI
— Art TakingBack ???? (@ArtValley_818) February 3, 2021

Meanwhile, voting company Smartmatic USA Corp has similarly sued Fox News for $2.7 billion in damages for what they claim were defamatory on-air comments.

In January, Twitter suspended Lindell for violating their 'civic integrity' policy.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Thursday, February 25, 2021 1:47 AM

1KIKI

Thursday, February 25, 2021 7:11 AM

THANKS! JSF for posting all those extra links!

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Friday, February 26, 2021 2:00 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Saturday, February 27, 2021 1:22 AM

still continuing...

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63718

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63799

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63781

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63783

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63776

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63778

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63763

OK, that looks like the ones I can find and recall - I'm not interrupted this time.

Feel free to review which ones to include or discard.

1KIKI

Saturday, February 27, 2021 2:01 AM

Thanks! Originally I was interested in the election process per se, not about the politicking, but these are all worthy of compiling to make it a more complete thread!

Hopefully the partisans from the other side will complete it with their own list(s) that fit(s) their political agenda.

1KIKI

Saturday, February 27, 2021 2:13 AM

with thread titles attached, duplicates removed

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Not sure what are your criteria, now much of the thread was devoted to what you include.

Georgia US Senate runoff
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=64070

Electoral College 2020
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63510

What if Biden wins in 2020?
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63742

The Ongoing Perpetual Wuhan Coronavirus Scare, Lockdown, Unemployment and Corruption
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63851

The secret plot to depose Trump
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63062

Where Did All Of The Voting Fraud Threads Go?
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63821

Biden goes full Ron Burgundy, accidentally reads teleprompter cues
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63854

March in suppport of Trump DC 2020
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=64005

If Cracker Jack Were Made of Popcorn and Dogshit, and Half the People Threw Out the Popcorn...
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=64007

Who Is Running In 2020?
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=62903

If The Newly Elected House Elects the President
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63980

Can I Change My Vote?
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63952

Can't trust the polls, huh NYT? Ain't that sad...
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63958

Reasons To Vote For Trump
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63945

When more Black Rappers endorse Trump than endorsed Obama...
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63962

This dude looks like he's up to no good...
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63946

Ruh Roh... Biden Behind in Top Battleground States Compared to Clinton
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63831

If Joe Obiden Is Elected, Who Will Be President?
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63984

Senate Race 2020
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63139

Mail Delays Fuel Concern Trump Is Undercutting Postal System Ahead of Voting
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63768

A Case For Early In-Person Voting
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63944

1KIKI

Saturday, February 27, 2021 2:22 AM

with thread titles attached, duplicates removed

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
still continuing...

How ya'all feeling about Biden's chances now that Kanye West is running for President?
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63718

Don't vote on Election Day
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63799

So, speaking of loving the Constitition and following the rules (not): Dem think tank plans color revolution if Trump wins
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63781

All factual claims of cheating aside...
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63783

C'mon Man! Too many good thread titles to choose from... (Re: Biden should be in a home)
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63776

Even the NYT is worried...
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63778

Ruh Roh...
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63763

OK, that looks like the ones I can find and recall - I'm not interrupted this time.

Feel free to review which ones to include or discard.