The mysteries of the human mind: cell phone videos and religiously-driven 'honor killings' in the same sentence. OR How the rationality of the science that surrounds people fails to penetrate irrational beliefs.

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1KIKI

Tuesday, May 19, 2020 2:14 AM

Two women in Pakistan have been murdered in a so-called "honor killing" after a video showing them kissing a man circulated online. The leaked mobile phone video, in which the women appeared, is a year old, but surfaced on social media this month, sparking the family's ire and decision to kill the women, said Khan.
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/05/18/asia/pakistan-honor-killing-hnk-int
l/index.html

Just in case you think only people in Pakistan are that backwards, here's one example from Tennessee:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/blood-tears-teen-was-called-possessed/

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Tuesday, May 19, 2020 2:55 AM

What’s with you and Sergiegnym with the 50 word, Private Jews, Jaynestown, sock puppet titles? Did your handlers send you an update about how to manipulate these things called “Search Engines?”

1KIKI

Tuesday, May 19, 2020 2:58 AM

I made it extra long so people like you can get the point, just in case your mental faculties aren't working properly.

So, you live in Pakistan or Tennessee it take it?

WISHIMAY

Tuesday, May 19, 2020 5:34 AM

LOL.

Newsflash, people in general are SHIT and aren't going to do what you think they should no matter how hard you legislate or regulate.

DUH.

You are going to die some fine day STILL thinking we can all work together in a delusional utopia.

It's so sick it's funny.

SIGNYM

Tuesday, May 19, 2020 1:32 PM

Humans aren't logic machines, we work by pattern recognition. And the context of the pattern makes a difference: Seeing tiger-like eyeshine by firelight is not at all like seeing fireflies in the forest, or shapes in the clouds. That's why people can buy a $30,000 car and then stress about seeing a $20 movie.

I think it would be REALLY helpful for people if we were made aware of the failures of human processing and, even better, given mnemonics to help overcome them. That way we wouldn't have matter and anti-matter thoughts together in the same brain that would explode our heads if ever the thoughts should collide.

There are a couple of things I find helpful ...

One of them is "DEFINE YOUR TERMS". People who get heated up about "freedom" or "human rights",for example, quite often can't even explain WHAT they mean when pressed to define their ideas. Even a concept of something as simple as a "cup" gets a little messy when challenged to define the difference between that, and a "mug", a "glass", a "bowl" and a "Japanese teacup". Most people don't, in fact, have a clue as to WHAT they're talking about/reacting to.

Another trick is to substitute the name of a hated person or event into the narrative tat you tell yourself. It will reveal biases. For example, instead of "Trump" insert "Hillary" or "Biden" or "Obama" next time you find yourself screeching about corruption or what-have-you. "Abortion" and "war" are pretty good substitutes for each other.

And finally, try to put things on SOME meaningful absolute scale. My hubby uses "energy", I use "money". How much do I spend on cable? What about insurance? My metric is "grocery budget". If it starts to equal or exceed "grocery budget", then I know it's ssomething I have to look into. If a vehicle costs me more than a year's-worth of goveries, maybe it's not the vehicle for us. Everyone has to find their own meaningful metric that puts everything on the same scale.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

#WEARAMASK

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, May 19, 2020 5:07 PM

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SECOND

Tuesday, May 19, 2020 7:41 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Humans aren't logic machines, we work by pattern recognition.

Honor killing is tightly interwoven with abstract thought and has a cold logic of its own. See Chapter 6, "Hotheads", from the book How the Mind Works by Steven Pinker.
https://libgen.unblockit.me/search.php?req=How+the+mind+works

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Tuesday, May 19, 2020 7:56 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
I made it extra long so people like you can get the point, just in case your mental faculties aren't working properly.

Bullsh*t

You're lying. Again. OR you're just a hack writer.

1KIKI

Tuesday, May 19, 2020 9:06 PM

I've wasted my time reading whole books by Pinker. With his grandiose failure to find hard facts and his use of amorphous words, when all is said and done, Pinker might possibly be remembered in history as a small-time derailment of progress on any topic.

SECOND

Tuesday, May 19, 2020 10:44 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
I've wasted my time reading whole books by Pinker. With his grandiose failure to find hard facts and his use of amorphous words, when all is said and done, Pinker might possibly be remembered in history as a small-time derailment of progress on any topic.

Predictably you'd write that. It is something about How Republican Minds Work. When asked whether the presidency of Donald Trump in the United States poses a threat to progress, Pinker says the Republican "indeed is a threat to many of the forms of progress that we've enjoyed. All the more reason that we should appreciate them, to know what we have to lose."

Religion can be another barrier to progress, according to Pinker. "Religious institutions themselves evolved under the influence of the Enlightenment," he argues. "They become more humanistic to the extent that they have, then they can be forces for progress."

"But yes, I believe that appealing to supernatural forces, appealing to doctrines that only people [who] are born into a particular religion share or that they can't be persuaded of, does go against progress."

www.aljazeera.com/programmes/upfront/2018/03/steven-pinker-trump-viole
nce-religion-180323165958898.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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