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The Immigration Facts Thread

POSTED BY: JEWELSTAITEFAN
UPDATED: Sunday, December 14, 2025 11:31
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Thursday, July 4, 2019 4:12 AM

This is spurred by another thread where pizmo claims that so few people want to Immigrate to America, that America must generate some sort of carrot to trick them into crossing the National Border.

I am a bit surprised at how difficult it is to find accurate data with the Libtard-biased search engines.

So I'll try to accumulate the data here. I don't mind if there is not a bunch of discussion, but I'd like to have a central location/depository for the info.


Post 1 is about the Legal Immigrants.

The Immigration Act of 1990 established that a total of 675,000 Visas (Legal Immigrants) per year would be allocated from about 1995 forward.

The mechanics of that "675,000":
480,000 - Family Sponsored. Minimum of 226,000 and up to 480.000. This is roughly the 480,000 minus the number of immediate relatives of U.S. Citizens who became permanent residents in the previous Fiscal Year.
140,000 - Permanent employment-based (including spouses and unmarried minor children). This is 140,000 plus unused family-sponsored preferences in the previous Fiscal Year.
55,000 - Diversity Visa

The above does not include those who are made citizens as part of Chain Migration - immediate relatives of U.S. Citizens.
Limit set by POTUS & Congress for refugees is separate from the above.

This 675,000 is 14% of the backlog in 2018. Many wait 20 years for their license to legally enter. That would cypher out to be about 4.82 Million active Applicants currently waiting their turn to enter, while the Illegal Aliens are Invading across the Border.

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Thursday, July 4, 2019 4:12 AM

Post 2 is about Illegal Aliens.

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Saturday, April 3, 2021 9:54 AM

Since Lord Darth Obiden opened the Border, the deluge from the floodgates is growing. Reports of thousands per day.
When Criminal Illegal Aliens reach the Border Reception Centers, they are given $1,200 cash and set free inside USA.
They arrive wearing Biden t-shirts.
It is estimated the minimum will be 2 - 2.5 million Criminal Illegal Aliens per year under Biden.

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Saturday, April 3, 2021 12:03 PM

Do you have a link showing the $1,200 payouts?

I'm sure that 20 million unemployed tax paying citizens would love to know how people who don't belong here are getting a stimulus for coming here illegally.


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PSA: Don't click on any links in Second's posts. He's trying to fish your private information out of you.

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Monday, April 5, 2021 2:01 AM

https://twitter.com/CurtisHouck/status/1378095149721513984

Cavuto continued to press Fauci on Lindsey Graham's concerns about COVID at the border, and after saying it's a "difficult situation," he adds he's too "busy" to get involved with the border b/c "I have more important things to do" than acquiesce to their concerns

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Monday, April 5, 2021 9:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Do you have a link showing the $1,200 payouts?

I'm sure that 20 million unemployed tax paying citizens would love to know how people who don't belong here are getting a stimulus for coming here illegally.

Looks like results are currently scrubbed. I'll need to pay more attention to key words. Thanks for pointing out which fact you were not aware of.

Separately, you do know they are all getting the $1,400 Stimulus Checks from the recently passed bill, right? I mentioned it in that thread, along with all prison inmates and current Criminal Illegal Aliens - all of which every single Democrat in Senate voted specifically for.





ETA: it might actually be "vouchers" instead of cash, to be used for flights around America (yes, without ID, or background check, or Al Queda check).

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Tuesday, April 13, 2021 8:51 PM

Once again I'll state that a physical wall is not necessary if we just made them know that there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING for them and their children when they come here, but it looks like Biden is re-thinking the continued construction of the wall.

https://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/547599-biden-is-thinking-about
-building-that-wall-and-thats-a-good-thing


Border crossings in the first three months of this year have been the most since 2006. We are now only 50,000 short of having more illegal crossings than the entire year of 2020 combined.

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Imagine the hypocrisy of a government who will allow businesses to card people to get a job or buy groceries, but won't card people to vote in elections and gives millions of non-citizens free money from taxpayers.

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Tuesday, April 20, 2021 9:03 PM

Seeing that there have been no facts posted in this thread about immigration, I'll go ahead and drop some truth, just to neutralize the toxicity of Russian trolls and American Nazis spewing their evil filth.

How the right wing invented a fictional 'crisis' — and tricked us into believing it
https://www.rawstory.com/border-crisis/?utm_source=&utm_medium=ema
il&utm_campaign=6987&recip_id=28351&list_id=1


Most people seem to have accepted the truth about the so-called war on drugs. By that, I mean it was never about drugs. Its true target was non-white people, especially Black people. Its goal was social control. Slavery gave way to Jim Crow, which gave way to the mass incarceration of "undesirables." Illegal drugs were merely a pretext. These days, states are legalizing drugs. Some are even releasing people convicted of drug crimes. In all, we seem to be experiencing a new age of drug enlightenment.

I hope it does not take most people as long with "border security." Like the "war on drugs," it's not about security. It's about social control. It's about having a legal reason to put non-white people in jail, kicking them out or just acting barbarously toward them. Drugs did not threaten the national interest until the government said they did. Same with the southern border. People used to pass freely, wherever the seasonal work took them. It did not threaten the national interest until the government said it did.

If it isn't already, please permit me to make it clear. When the Republicans talk about "illegal immigrants," they're not talking about illegal action. They're giving voice to their real objectives. They want to punish immigrants for who they are. They can't outlaw them outright, of course. The Congress, the law, the courts and popular opinion would prevent that from happening. But they can expand the scope of political conflict so that legal behavior seems illegal, thus forcing the government to respond. The result is billions spent every year on securing a border that will never be secure. The result is billions wasted annually on punching down on the poor, the weak and the brown.

For instance, "unlawful entry." That's the offense of crossing the border without proper authorization. It's a misdemeanor. (I'm serious.) So is overstaying your work or student visa. These are crimes, to be sure, but hardly serious crimes. They don't rise to the level of a felony. They are not deserving of being ripped from one's family or community—presuming the point of the law is justice. It isn't for the Republicans. The point is dominance. So for a decade and more, they have expanded the meaning of a minor criminal offense so that it looks like a dangerous way-of-life threatening crime.

The same thing is being done to "refugees." Fact: Anyone traveling to the southern border to request political asylum is a temporary legal immigrant. Full stop. That's the law. Indeed, the statute requires US Customs and Border Protection to open a process by which the agency tries reconnecting refugees with family in the US. But what began with the Trump administration is being continued by the GOP. Anyone traveling to the southern border is being called "illegal," even if they're children. Another fact: Every one of those 22,000 migrant children in government custody is here legally.

The same thing is happening with respect to the "open border." Fact: There is no such thing. It is a complete fiction. The border is tightly regulated. The Democrats in the Congress are not trying to open it. The Biden administration wants nothing to do with the idea. What it does, however, is follow laws entitling asylum-seekers to a legal process. But because the Republicans have defined refugees as "illegal," that gives the impression the administration, which is following the law, is opening the border.

If 22,000 children are refugees, if they're entitled to ask

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Tuesday, April 20, 2021 9:08 PM

^ Not facts.

The Racist Roomba doesn't know what facts are.

There are no Russians posting on FFF.net.

Have a nice day.



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Imagine the hypocrisy of a government who will allow businesses to card people to get a job or buy groceries, but won't card people to vote in elections and gives millions of non-citizens free money from taxpayers.

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Tuesday, April 20, 2021 9:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
^ Not facts.

The Racist Roomba doesn't know what facts are.

There are no Russians posting on FFF.net.

Have a nice day.


Still fact-free, as always. ^ The true mark of a fascist.
Every word of the article is fact.

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