Is this really "the lowest point in our nation’s history that they can remember"?

So, you admit you pulled your numbers out of your ass ! GREAT !

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I pulled them out of "somebodies" ass. Not my own.

Those numbers were probably from the NY Times article, or some similar poll.

Polls don't mean shit though, as is evidenced by Hillary Clinton's loss. You know that.


I've only ever met one women in RL who claims she's a feminist. She's an asshole.

I've only ever met one person online who claims they're a feminist. I'm assuming it's a female. Female or male it's repulsive.


I'm sure there are other women I've met that would identify as a Feminist if they were asked about it. The point is that they don't hang their entire existence on that and any other type of identity politics. The only women these days that everyone knows are feminists are truly miserable people.


Look at Wishy. She is identity politics personified. Feminist? Check. Athiest? Check. White apologist? Check.

How do I know all of that? lol... A completely rhetorical question since 90% of hateful posts have something to do with one of those issues.

She'll go around calling everybody else a nazi, behave as poorly as she wants to, abuse other people constantly, and then cry like a baby about everything and play the victim because.... vagina.

She's disgusting.

That's why most women don't want to talk about Feminism in regular conversation these days. They don't want to be associated with the likes of her.

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That's why most women don't want to talk about Feminism in regular conversation these days. They don't want to be associated with the likes of her.

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I admit, my sampling of 'women' is limited. I've interacted with perhaps a dozen waitresses at length at my local diner over the last 25 years. Then there's the Hispanic neighbor-lady that lives on one side. (The other side is a rental, and lately the renters have been flowing thru at roughly yearly intervals.) Then there's my mom, grandmother, aunts, all my cousins, and assorted female relatives. And the three or so dozen co-workers. All the students I've trained over the years. Professors. And so on.

Most women I know don't call themselves feminists any more than they call themselves vertebrates, because the name just doesn't matter to them that much, one way or the other.

But if you ask them, what they want is to be treated fairly. To have the same opportunities, recognition, and pay, as a man. To not be groped, or ogled, or rudely talked about. To not have to ask permission to make decisions about their health. They think birth control is a right, and abortion should be available.

These are women who span a large age range, from my age - from before the time that female birth control existed, abortion was legal, and it was illegal to bar women from medical school or union apprenticeships - to young women who grew up knowing nothing else, who could be my granddaughters.

I don't know what general points you think you're trying to make. But you sure have peculiar ideas about women.

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Women in America have all of that today. I agree that they should.

On a case by case basis I'm sure there are women being mistreated, possibly only because they are a woman. But the same could be said for men on a case by case basis as well.

You didn't bring up a single one of the points I have any contention with. Most women don't.

I actually prefer the company of females over males. In real life I don't know any that I even have any discussions like this with.

I'm hard pressed to even think of a time that I ever did except for the one that I told you I knew who says she is a Feminist.


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I think that the problem may lie in the fact that the word Feminist means a whole lot of different things to a whole lot of different women.

It's my opinion that the ones who loudly proclaim that they are a Feminist in 2017 are the ones who have a lot of problems and want to hurt other people, specifically men.

I'll admit that it's unfortunate, since it is kind of shitty for me to then in turn insult ALL Feminists, whom many of which I don't think are like Wishy at all.

I dunno.... Did you read all of the articles you linked to me. Quite a few high profile women have come out and said that they are not Feminists because though they believe in equality for both sexes they don't hate men. There is a real problem with the Feminist label today. I mentioned this months ago when I said the "movement" has co-opted by radical nut jobs.



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Did you read all of the articles you linked to me.

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Yes. I even read the links. I posted what I posted because I was surprised at the discord between results, which, among other things, shows the numbers you keep quoting as being a VERY limited and unreliable indicator of what people think.

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Well I think that's probably the least important part of my last post, but sure... polling data for everything is largely BS. I'm not surprised this is all over the map. Anybody could skew stats for whatever reason they want to, and they do it everyday.

Can we get off that point now?

I'm not going say any more myself because I'd just be repeating what I said in the last post that you didn't respond to.

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I've only ever met one women in RL who claims she's a feminist. She's an asshole.
I've only ever met one person online who claims they're a feminist. I'm assuming it's a female. Female or male it's repulsive.

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You've met two women who call themselves feminists and you think they're assholes.

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I'm sure there are other women I've met that would identify as a Feminist if they were asked about it. The point is that they don't hang their entire existence on that and any other type of identity politics. The only women these days that everyone knows are feminists are truly miserable people.

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You've concluded that 'everyone' thinks the way you do on the basis of your personal reaction to two women who are feminists.

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Look at Wishy. She is identity politics personified. Feminist? Check. Athiest? Check. White apologist? Check.
How do I know all of that? lol... A completely rhetorical question since 90% of hateful posts have something to do with one of those issues.

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Actually, she just dislikes 'people'. Because. people. That's her schtick.

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She'll go around calling everybody else a nazi ...

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I don't recall her calling 'people' nazis often - if at all - though she does call you one iirc.

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... behave as poorly as she wants to, abuse other people constantly, and then cry like a baby about everything and play the victim because.... vagina.

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She thinks very badly of her female neighbor, video game players and makers, people who own pit bulls, and anyone who disagrees with her.

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She's disgusting.

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She's a hoot!

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That's why most women don't want to talk about Feminism in regular conversation these days.

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'People' don't talk about being feminists because of Wishi? Dood! You're giving her WAY too much credit.

And like I said, they also don't talk about being vertebrates. It doesn't make them any less of a vertebrate, or a feminist.

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They don't want to be associated with the likes of her.

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I know you and Wishi have a particularly hostile interaction. OTOH Wishi has hostile interactions with a LOT of people. It doesn't have anything to do with feminism. She treats a lot of people like shit on the board - even women. It's just her.

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Huh.... wouldn't ya know it....

I don't see Russia at all on those graphs.

Take note, Democrats looking to win seats in 2018.

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that is funny. Democraps are on the losing end of each if those topics, until you get so far down that they needed to include the last item.

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