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Wonder Woman

POSTED BY: JEWELSTAITEFAN
UPDATED: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 11:30
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Friday, May 26, 2017 6:23 AM

The London release was apparently cancelled due to the Manchester bombing.

North America will need to take up the slack.

Next Friday.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0451279/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

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Thursday, June 1, 2017 12:35 PM

All indications are that this will be a record setter. On Fandango/Flixster it posted a 94% critics rating on Rotten Tomatoes. I would say that's pretty good.
I was impressed with Gadot's charisma in the awful Batman vs Superman fiasco.

I already have my ticket for Friday, and I'm like a little kid at Christmas.
I will stop here and wait patiently until June 2. Then I will let you guys know
how good this film is.


SGG


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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
The London release was apparently cancelled due to the Manchester bombing.

North America will need to take up the slack.

Next Friday.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0451279/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

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Friday, June 2, 2017 4:51 AM

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
The London release was apparently cancelled due to the Manchester bombing.

North America will need to take up the slack.

Next Friday.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0451279/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1


All indications are that this will be a record setter. On Fandango/Flixster it posted a 94% critics rating on Rotten Tomatoes. I would say that's pretty good.
I was impressed with Gadot's charisma in the awful Batman vs Superman fiasco.

I already have my ticket for Friday, and I'm like a little kid at Christmas.
I will stop here and wait patiently until June 2. Then I will let you guys know how good this film is.

SGG


Why not tonight? My smaller local cinema has at least one showing starting every hour from 7 to 11.
If I didn't need to go to work at 6am, I'd be there.

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Saturday, June 3, 2017 3:40 AM

Slow. Clunky. CGI fest. Still the best DC movie since Zack Snyder took over.

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Saturday, June 3, 2017 9:54 AM

Tonight was the night. First off, I don't agree with Zeek. It was not clunky, it actually took it's time setting up the story of the origin of Wonder Woman. I appreciated that 1) Zack Snyder did not write the screenplay and 2) that he did not direct.

Thank God for small wonders.

Yes, it had a deliberate pace, but it was not slow. It reminded me of the films from the 70s that actually told a story as it entertained. Directed by Patty Jenkins, remember that name, I'm not sure of other films she's directed because I'm still researching (for some reason I thought Snyder was directing), but from the little I did get she's been fighting to direct for the last 10 years. I think her time has come, so much so that she's got some thoughts about WW2.

Okay, I just found something on Patty Jenkins, for which I'm pleasantly surprised, and I quote:

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Jenkins made her feature directing debut with 2003's Monster, which won star Charlize Theron an Oscar for Best Actress. Since then, however, Jenkins hasn't made another feature film, turning instead to television, where she's directed episodes of Arrested Development, Entourage, and the acclaimed pilot episode of The Killing. (Buzzfeed)


She's scheduled to direct WW2....based on how well this movie was crafted, good choice.

Now, on to the movie's lead...Gal Gadot is a STAR, so talented, both her and Chris Pine had chemistry, this despite the presentation within the script, I thought it a tad incomplete. But make no mistake, this was 100% her vehicle and she knocked it out of the park. And to think they were considering offering the role to an American actress. By the way, as an aside, Lynda Carter was invited by Snyder to give her blessing (personally, I thought it a great touch by the movie's producers). Oh and she did, she was even given a credit at movie's end.

Gadot is not just a pretty face, this woman can act. That is not to say that Meryll Streep will be out of a job anytime soon, but she does have skill. This movie was fun, funny and entertaining in every sense of the word. The CGI was, to me, seamless and flowed well within the confines of the story. The action sequences were well thought out and sprinkled brilliantly throughout the film.
My only moment of slight disappointment was in the final scenes of Act 3, the grand finale with WW and the arch villain battle. Other than that I was thoroughly
entertained. This reminded me of the very first Iron Man in terms of storytelling and pace. I put it on even par with that film, and maybe give Wonder Woman a slight edge.

The entire cast did a marvelous job in telling this story and Gadot was firmly in the forefront as it's star. Especially Connie Nielsen, Robin Wright and Chris Pine.
Although appearing briefly Connie Nielsen was solid as Queen Hippolyta, both her and Robin Wright as Antiope, gave the movie it's gravitas. There are some obvious
commentaries regarding the senseless act of war and our involvement, or lack thereof. But don't worry, this doesn't turn into a political diatribe. This is strictly a superhero movie done absolutely right. I could see why Rotten Tomatoes gave it a 94% rating. I'm definitely getting the DVD/Blu-Ray.


SGG



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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
The London release was apparently cancelled due to the Manchester bombing.

North America will need to take up the slack.

Next Friday.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0451279/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1


All indications are that this will be a record setter. On Fandango/Flixster it posted a 94% critics rating on Rotten Tomatoes. I would say that's pretty good.
I was impressed with Gadot's charisma in the awful Batman vs Superman fiasco.

I already have my ticket for Friday, and I'm like a little kid at Christmas.
I will stop here and wait patiently until June 2. Then I will let you guys know how good this f

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Sunday, June 4, 2017 3:01 AM

I'm glad I saw it last night. It wasn't as good as I had hoped, but DC Comics + No-Baffleck seems to be a better formula. I watched the 2D version.

The backstory displayed here seems different than my recollection of prior versions. I had not realized this fictional story takes place at the same time and some places as The Promise, which was about the Armenian Holocaust, with the decline and fall of the Ottoman Empire circa WWI. (hints: The War To End All Wars was what we call WWI. Kaiser Wilhelm was the German war King for WWI, for WWII it was Hitler. The Ottoman Empire did not exist by 1930. Biplanes were developed during WWI.)

Sometimes when watching a film you wonder if there was another writer's strike during production. Like one of the Transformers when everybody enters the front of the Smithsonian Air & Space Museum in downtown District of Columbia and leave by the back door, stepping into the Arizona desert, near Yuma. So if you pay attention to what is presented from the script, a WWI era plane (around 100 mph speed, maybe 7.5 hours for 750 mile range) flies from the Ottoman Empire to the isolated hidden Island of Amazon Women, it must be hidden in one of the Seas surrounding the Arabian Peninsula, or maybe the Mediterranean, for no Ocean is in range.
I got that feeling several times during Wonder Woman.
But some of the filming or action reminded me of 300, and maybe Transformers. It is possible that more editing could have benefited the film.

There seemed to be a bunch of feminazi dogma forced into the script - perhpas due to the female-heavy credit list (director, producers, etc).

I enjoyed most of the cast. I still prefer Connie Nielsen performances in Soldier and Gladiator, but her role seemed constrained here. Chris Pine sometimes sounds like Capt Kirk, so he is a hippie soldier perhaps hoping his hair will disguise his similar appearance to Capt Kirk. My favorite Elena Anaya performance since The Skin I Live In (2011), my fave Ewen Bremner performance since Blackhawk Down (2001), the first role for Lily Aspell - approached on the street specifically for this role. And I really enjoyed Gal Gadot's performance, although I still enjoyed her work in Fast Furious, and still consider Criminal to be my favorite work from her. The song by Sia does not even arrive until the End Credits are rolling in earnest.

If I were getting a DVD with Wonder Woman, I'd likely get the 70's Lynda Carter TV over this one, but this has enough stuff to fill the big screen, which would likely be lost on DVD.
I really hope for future installations of this character set.

i liked it better than Ghost in the Shell, but I think I was more entertained by Colossal. Far better than any Baffleck work.

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Monday, June 5, 2017 3:33 AM

Saw it today, generally liked it, but I'm glad I didn't have my hopes set too high.

Parts were cleverly written, other parts were.. not so much. Still, I'd have given it an A rating, over the first 3/4 of the film. The ending though... ugh. Too much CGI ( a trademark for DC films ) Why can't they come up w/ a satisfying , well set up finish to their movies ? It's why Marvel has been kicking their ass to date, and will likely do so until they change how they do things.

Geography does seem to be a sore spot. Leave 'somewhere 'in the Mediterranean sea , ( the Aegean Sea, at best ), in a small sail boat, and wake up the next morning , riding up the Thames ? Hello, London!

I hope the Amazon gals can move their island, because I'm thinking that the Med sea, in the 21st century, it won't be so easy to conceal an entire island from Google Maps. Just sayin'.



* Why do we have to wait until well over 1/2 through the movie to hear WW's theme music kick in? As she starts to finally kick ass , ... and why wasn't it set up earlier in the movie? Stuff like that, I dunno, just seems like it sort a just appears, out of no where, and now , when ever you see her in a trialer, that theme music cranks up...

Tired now. Nite.

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Monday, June 5, 2017 2:06 PM

For the most part, I agree with you Rappy. I admit I was a little pumped to see WW, but I tried to keep focused on the overall tone of the movie. I liked it a lot.
But I did have trouble with the final battle, it reminded me of the Man of Steel battle between Zod and Superman (although this one wasn't quite as long as in that movie).

Another pet peeve of mine is that they showed far too much in the trailers, I felt as though I saw much of the movie. Still though, I enjoyed it very much. As far as the geography was concerned - it's a story about a fictional character guys, and the Island was supposedly hidden from mankind. We're talking about a demigod (WW) brought to life by Zeus (another fictional character). The audience is supposed to suspend their belief and go along with the fantasy that a woman with superhuman strength and blessed with immortality ever existed. Remember Superman came to us from Krypton, Spider-Man was bitten by a radioactive spider, etc.

Well, as superhero movies go, Wonder Woman was actually well done. And they picked a good actress to portray the character - even her accent made it that much more
entertaining and true to the character. Gadot was an excellent choice. By the way, I saw the 3D version (except for a little darkness on screen, overall it was well done).


SGG


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Saw it today, generally liked it, but I'm glad I didn't have my hopes set too high.

Parts were cleverly written, other parts were.. not so much. Still, I'd have given it an A rating, over the first 3/4 of the film. The ending though... ugh. Too much CGI ( a trademark for DC films ) Why can't they come up w/ a satisfying , well set up finish to their movies ? It's why Marvel has been kicking their ass to date, and will likely do so until they change how they do things.

Geography does seem to be a sore spot. Leave 'somewhere 'in the Mediterranean sea , ( the Aegean Sea, at best ), in a small sail boat, and wake up the next morning , riding up the Thames ? Hello, London!

I hope the Amazon gals can move their island, because I'm thinking that the Med sea, in the 21st century, it won't be so easy to conceal an entire island from Google Maps. Just sayin'.



* Why do we have to wait until well over 1/2 through the movie to hear WW's theme music kick in? As she starts to finally kick ass , ... and why wasn't it set up earlier in the movie? Stuff like that, I dunno, just seems like it sort a just appears, out of no where, and now , when ever you see her in a trialer, that theme music cranks up...

Tired now. Nite.

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Tuesday, June 6, 2017 4:25 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Saw it today, generally liked it, but I'm glad I didn't have my hopes set too high.

Parts were cleverly written, other parts were.. not so much. Still, I'd have given it an A rating, over the first 3/4 of the film. The ending though... ugh. Too much CGI ( a trademark for DC films ) Why can't they come up w/ a satisfying , well set up finish to their movies ? It's why Marvel has been kicking their ass to date, and will likely do so until they change how they do things.

highly agree so far.
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Geography does seem to be a sore spot. Leave 'somewhere 'in the Mediterranean sea, (the Aegean Sea, at best), in a small sail boat, and wake up the next morning, riding up the Thames? Hello, London!

maybe they just transported, you know? Kirk said Beam Us Up, WW was none the wiser.
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I hope the Amazon gals can move their island, because I'm thinking that the Med sea, in the 21st century, it won't be so easy to conceal an entire island from Google Maps. Just sayin'.


I guess I didn't elaborate enough in my review - implied that ALL of the bodies of water within range of Ottoman Empire were pretty well charted, even before WWI.


Does anybody find it odd, in a feminazi infused fiction, that women are certain that the solution to WAR is Violence, Killing, Combat and not Love?

I wasn't certain her accent added or detracted, but it did seem to fluctuate quite a bit. Maybe some scenes were shot out of sequence by months, and her accent was changing. Now I wonder, does the Israeli version have her dubbed by a British or English accent, to maintain the 'foreign' concept? (ala the spaghetti westerns)

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Is the God status a spoiler? Or was that already present in prior backstory? I don't understand why she would be a Demi-God, instead of a Full God. Was Greek God Ares a Demi-God, the Greeks did not use such a term? Zeus created Diana, a God capable and specifically purposed to Kill Ares - how could she be a lesser God than Ares?

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Tuesday, June 6, 2017 9:19 PM

When I says "since Snyder took over" I don't mean to imply he wrote and directed Wonder Woman. I just mean DC movies since the Nolan Batman movies. Because if we include those then even the crummy Bane movie is better than Wonder Woman.

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The reason Ares is not a demigod is because he's the child of Zeus and Hera. Both gods. Diana is a child of Zeus and Hypolita (sp?). One god one amazon. So, she's not full god. Though I will say if the movie is to be taken seriously then she's apparently invulnerable now. They said "it takes a god to kill a god" and if she was able to kill a god then she must be a god herself and supposedly the last one. So, unless she has offspring who are also gods then nothing should be able to kill her. It's lines like that which really drag a movie down IMO. It seems like it was flippantly thrown in to sound cool without taking into account what it actually means.



I want to reiterate that I don't think it was a bad movie, but to act like it was a masterpiece is silly to me. Even in the trailers we see the scene where she apparently can't understand that holding her shield flat will prevent her from passing through a narrow doorway. I get that she's a fish out of water, but why does that make her too stupid to understand that solid matter rarely passes through other solid matter? That's just shoddy writing because she's obviously not a stupid character in the rest of the film. It really seemed like the movie needed a script doctor to polish it. As is it's a bit dull.

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