Americans have given up
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UPDATED: Sunday, September 6, 2026 04:06
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Originally posted by second:
See how easily I solved that confusing problem for you? Imagining aliens is a sure sign of mental confusion.
I red a story about a huje accumulation uv treasure being stolen during shipment way befor the A.D. era, never to be seen agen. Dont recall any detailz. I just wundered why it wuz being transported in the first plase.
That got me to thinking about alienz. Alienz explainz our so-called 'civilization' and wut we are doing to the planet very well. Sins I dont need to imajin alienz, I only need to explain why they are here.
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Quote:I do hope you are not thinking of the space aliens coming to Earth to steal gold in the movie Cowboys and Aliens (2011) with Harrison Ford www.imdb.com/title/tt0409847/
Originally posted by JO753:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
See how easily I solved that confusing problem for you? Imagining aliens is a sure sign of mental confusion.
I red a story about a huje accumulation uv treasure being stolen during shipment way befor the A.D. era, never to be seen agen. Dont recall any detailz. I just wundered why it wuz being transported in the first plase.
That got me to thinking about alienz. Alienz explainz our so-called 'civilization' and wut we are doing to the planet very well. Sins I dont need to imajin alienz, I only need to explain why they are here.
Because if you are thinking Cowboys and Aliens you're not really thinking usefully. Didn't we want to know why Americans have given up? Aliens are never the answer, except in movies and the X-Files.
You might be thinking of the story of about how the US sent $12 billion in cash to Iraq. And watched it vanish. www.theguardian.com/world/2007/feb/08/usa.iraq1
There is a more recent story that says less was stolen. I don't believe it, because it comes years too late and is too politically convenient for Obama.
www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/27/lost-iraq-cash-government-finally-ac
counts-6-billion_n_1052840.html
There were no aliens involved. There were US Army generals, now retired for 10 years, who are living very well on their pensions and whatever they stole. The American Dream lives!
To add a trite little moral to the story, retired generals are only a tiny number out of millions of Americans abusing their powerful positions to enrich themselves while ruining other Americans' dreams.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:Quote:I checked this at www.snopes.com/politics/obama/loans.asp and www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/alinsky.asp
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
During Obama's ACORN bubble, the unqualified homebuyers drove the prices down, and also starved out new home construction. Now the lack of under-decade old homes is raising the market values, plus the prices are returning to their normal range while no longer being artificially forced low.
Do you want to know what I learned? That you should be ashamed of yourself, JewelStaiteFan. You are spreading falsehoods.
To quote my source:Quote:
This item seeks to dump much of the blame for America's current economic woes on Barack Obama by claiming that as a young lawyer, Obama filed a lawsuit requiring financial institutions to lend money to "poor people" and "others who could not show proof that they could pay the money back."
Indeed. ANTHONY (who used to post here) worked at a bank processing mortgages, and what HE said about the situation is that the whole "must loan to poh people" never came up.
It was a frenzy of speculation built on rising real estate values fueled by speculation .... a typical "positive feedback loop" in which a driver causes more of itself to occur, kind of like a firestorm. And yes, it's a recipe for instability.
Banks were doing what banks do best: making loans. Because the banks had a ready buyer for these loans, no matter how execrable any individual loan was: The investment firms who would make a "meatloaf" of loans (made up of layers of good, bad, and terrible loans) and sell them in "tranches" (slices) to each other and to the unwary investor (pension funds), greased with insurance called "credit default swaps". That's why even insurers like AIG (who usually insure bonds) were caught in the collapse.
http://www.businessinsider.com/heres-the-untold-story-of-how-aig-destr
oyed-itself-2010-3
Another favorite target of the right is Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. The right constantly claims that these institutions made bad loans. Sorry, but neither institution wrote mortgages. They were loan PURCHASERS, but because of their regulatory requirements they purchased far fewer bad loans, as a percentage of total, than their fellow free-wheeling investment firms.
Some people seem doomed to repeat the same story over and over, whether or not it's true.
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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.
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I red a story about a huje accumulation uv treasure being stolen during shipment way befor the A.D. era, never to be seen agen. Dont recall any detailz. I just wundered why it wuz being transported in the first plase.
That got me to thinking about alienz. Alienz explainz our so-called 'civilization' and wut we are doing to the planet very well. Sins I dont need to imajin alienz, I only need to explain why they are here.
Aliens
REALLY????
Well, it's a great example of the "circuses" used to amuse people, and with which people amuse themselves, and an indication that JO -along with countless other Americans- has given up on thinking seriously about wrenching our government into some semblance of representation.
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Not saying I believ it, just a hypothosis.
Wen most peeps think alienz, they think uv a single unified organization uv sum sort - a goverment like us humanz hav on a grand scale. Many planets, the entire galaxy or even many galaxyz.
Consider the possibilty that its a disorganized mix uv individualz, small groups and individual planetary sivilizationz.
Wen you raize the teknolojy level to where we will be by the end uv this sentury, include antigravity and immortality, you start to wunder about how an individual can spend hiz limitless time.
Taking control uv a bunch uv apes on a backwater rock coud be fun. 1 guy coud do it.
I dont know how you feel about UFOz, but the preponderans uv evidens makes it clear that they are real. If you luv to believ the Firefly future so much that you want every detail to be true, I can understand why you dont like advansed alienz. They ruin the story; makes the entire melieu impossible.
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Quote:How about a hypothesis that has already been proven true by the Federal Reserve Board? That the richest 10% own most of America? You'll have to add a working hypothesis that they are incompetent owners. Remember: just because you own something complicated doesn't mean you read the operating manual.
Originally posted by JO753:
Not saying I believ it, just a hypothosis. . . . Taking control uv a bunch uv apes on a backwater rock coud be fun. 1 guy coud do it.
The Top 10% of White Families Own Almost Everything
2013 Survey of Consumer Finances Federal Reserve Board
http://www.federalreserve.gov/econresdata/scf/scfindex.htm
http://dqydj.net/net-worth-in-the-united-states-zooming-in-on-the-top-
centiles/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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You think so, do you ?
Have you not looked at Michigan, ehe ?
Do you think that was a fluke ?
That it was some kind of accident, hrmm ?
Pfffth, morons, the lot of you.
-F5
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Quote:Flint, Michigan? Did you see www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/03/flint
Originally posted by FREM:
You think so, do you ?
Have you not looked at Michigan, ehe ?
Do you think that was a fluke ?
That it was some kind of accident, hrmm ?
Pfffth, morons, the lot of you.
-F5
Quote:It is exactly what you would expect from a ruling class that does not understand the manual on how to run a safe water system. The ruling class could not see any benefit for themselves for competently running America. Incompetency is easier on their brains.
The Flint water crisis is a story of government failure, intransigence, unpreparedness, delay, inaction, and environmental injustice. The Michigan Department of Environmental Quality (MDEQ) failed in its fundamental responsibility to effectively enforce drinking water regulations. The Michigan Department of Health and Human Services (MDHHS) failed to adequately and promptly act to protect public health. Both agencies, but principally the MDEQ, stubbornly worked to discredit and dismiss others’ attempts to bring the issues of unsafe water, lead contamination, and increased cases of Legionellosis (Legionnaires’ disease) to light. With the City of Flint under emergency management, the Flint Water Department rushed unprepared into full-time operation of the Flint Water Treatment Plant, drawing water from a highly corrosive source without the use of corrosion control.
Though MDEQ was delegated primacy (authority to enforce federal law), the United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) delayed enforcement of the Safe Drinking Water Act (SDWA) and Lead and Copper Rule (LCR), thereby prolonging the calamity. Neither the Governor nor the Governor’s office took steps to reverse poor decisions by MDEQ and state-appointed emergency managers until October 2015, in spite of mounting problems and suggestions to do so by senior staff members in the Governor’s office, in part because of continued reassurances from MDEQ that the water was safe. The significant consequences of these failures for Flint will be long-lasting. They have deeply affected Flint’s public health, its economic future, and residents’ trust in government.
The Flint water crisis occurred when state-appointed emergency managers replaced local representative decision-making in Flint, removing the checks and balances and public accountability that come with public decision-making. Emergency managers made key decisions that contributed to the crisis, from the use of the Flint River to delays in reconnecting to DWSD once water quality problems were encountered. Given the demographics of Flint, the implications for environmental injustice cannot be ignored or dismissed.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Herez sumthing to mull over: http://www.earth-policy.org/indicators/C53
The GWP (Gross World Product) wuz 77 trillion in 2011. Not a great year for any nation, but lets say that over the last 20 yirz its been sumthing in that nayborhood, say 50,000,000,000,000$ per yir.
Thats a quadrillion dollarz. Divide that by the current population and we woud hav about 140,000$ each.
Duznt sound totally unreazonable until you take all the zero and negativ welth peepl out uv the equation. I, for example am at sumthing like -250,000$. Not an unusual amount for middle classerz. So, do you add all the det for us or just mark it az zero? I dont no.
In either case, it seemz like it mite be difficult to find enuf billionairez and millionairez to account for a quadrillion dollarz. And thats only going back to 1996.
Then, if you just go yir to yir, totalling all the income suppozedly jenerated, subtracting all the food eaten, carz and other crap purchased, the suppozedly getting richer all the time rich peeps woud need to be spending all this money sumhow.
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Quote:When you do the arithmetic, you find out where the money is being spent. Check the Global Wealth Report 2015
Originally posted by JO753:
Then, if you just go yir to yir, totalling all the income suppozedly jenerated, subtracting all the food eaten, carz and other crap purchased, the suppozedly getting richer all the time rich peeps woud need to be spending all this money sumhow.
https://publications.credit-suisse.com/tasks/render/file/?fileID=F2425
415-DCA7-80B8-EAD989AF9341D47E
The Global Wealth Report tells you what would happen if everybody sold everything they own, liquidated any investments they have, paid off all of their debts, and withdrew whatever cash they have in bank accounts.
You’d be standing on the street naked, with nowhere to go, holding a bunch of cash, and people would be looking at you.
But you would have $250,145 billion in dollar bills to cover your nudity.
Oh! I forgot you would have to divide that money with 7.4 billion people on Earth. That is $33,803 per person. Buy something with your money because clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society.
In more detail that is $4,352 per adult in India and $342,302 per adult in North America according to Credit Suisse Research.
The world ought not return to gold backing paper money because there is only $8.6 trillion in gold, but the world is worth $250 trillion.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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