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American Soldier Dies in Iraq Saving Kurds from ISIS

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Friday, October 23, 2015 1:55 PM

Buried deep among the Bullshit Follies (Benghazi Trial) was a story regarding a Delta Force commando squad assisting the Peshmerga in Northern Iraq, freeing 70 Kurd hostages and capturing 5 ISIS soldiers slated for execution.

http://aranews.net/2015/10/u-s-forces-and-the-peshmerga-storm-isis-str
onghold-rescue-70-kurdish-hostages-north-iraq
/

Fuck yeah! Get those murdering bastards and kill 'em all!

Honor to the Peshmerga!


SGG

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Friday, October 23, 2015 9:09 PM

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Buried deep among the Bullshit Follies (Benghazi Trial) was a story regarding a Delta Force commando squad assisting the Peshmerga in Northern Iraq, freeing 70 Kurd hostages and capturing 5 ISIS soldiers slated for execution.

http://aranews.net/2015/10/u-s-forces-and-the-peshmerga-storm-isis-str
onghold-rescue-70-kurdish-hostages-north-iraq
/

Fuck yeah! Get those murdering bastards and kill 'em all!

Honor to the Peshmerga!


SGG



I'd like to see another country drop into the middle of ISIS and pull that off. This is the future of our involvement in foreign wars going forward. To use special forces to assist the locals and to not do all the fighting for them.

Saudi Arabia has the 3rd largest military budget behind the U.S. and China. Time to let them take the lead in defending it's interests in the middle east. There is a report though that suggests they will be bankrupted by 2020 because of their welfare system and oil prices. Remember Iran and Lybia are coming back online which will make matters worse for them.

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Saturday, October 24, 2015 12:57 PM

The Peshmerga have been holding off the militant extremists almost completely on their own. I believe that Americans have been volunteering for some time now, and it's only been recent that special forces have joined in on the fight, mainly providing transport, training and the occasional raid to recover hostages. The Peshmerga are like the Revolutionary patriots of this country; they are strongly independent that have been fighting for many years - women too. I don't think that there will be any increase of American soldiers, at least until the next president is voted through in 2016.


SGG


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Originally posted by THGRRI:
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Buried deep among the Bullshit Follies (Benghazi Trial) was a story regarding a Delta Force commando squad assisting the Peshmerga in Northern Iraq, freeing 70 Kurd hostages and capturing 5 ISIS soldiers slated for execution.

http://aranews.net/2015/10/u-s-forces-and-the-peshmerga-storm-isis-str
onghold-rescue-70-kurdish-hostages-north-iraq
/

Fuck yeah! Get those murdering bastards and kill 'em all!

Honor to the Peshmerga!


SGG



I'd like to see another country drop into the middle of ISIS and pull that off. This is the future of our involvement in foreign wars going forward. To use special forces to assist the locals and to not do all the fighting for them.

Saudi Arabia has the 3rd largest military budget behind the U.S. and China. Time to let them take the lead in defending it's interests in the middle east. There is a report though that suggests they will be bankrupted by 2020 because of their welfare system and oil prices. Remember Iran and Lybia are coming back online which will make matters worse for them.

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Saturday, October 24, 2015 6:04 PM

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I'd like to see another country drop into the middle of ISIS and pull that off. This is the future of our involvement in foreign wars going forward.

It will be used sparingly, because:

a) It's all very well until one of these missions goes disastrously wrong. No US president wants to see videos of captured American servicemen being beheaded by jihadis
b) The more these types of missions are carried out the more IS will come to expect them, and be ready for them. This increases the chances of a) happening.

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Saturday, October 24, 2015 7:01 PM




OK, now that's out of the way, hoorah to the fallen.

Honor to the Peshmerga!

Yep.

It was a bad ass and heroic act on the part of Delta Force to jump in and assist in the mission.

That's who we are.

Be at peace, Master Sergeant Joshua Wheeler,

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Saturday, October 24, 2015 8:02 PM

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OK, now that's out of the way, hoorah to the fallen.

Honor to the Peshmerga!

Yep.

It was a bad ass and heroic act on the part of Delta Force to jump in and assist in the mission.

That's who we are.

Be at peace, Master Sergeant Joshua Wheeler,

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen


I decided to remove Obama's video and address the attack on him.

He did say we were fighting ISIS and he never said we would not use special forces for any reason. Missions always change anyway. This is one of several such missions and your latching onto this so you can attack our commander and chief says lots about your false patriotism.

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Saturday, October 24, 2015 10:57 PM

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Time to let them [Saudi Arabia] take the lead in defending it's interests in the middle east.
They are "defending their interests".

It's called "funding jihadists". Don't you know that Saudi Arabia is the main source of funding for al Qaida and it's affiliates, and the USA has worked hand-in-glove with KSA (Kingdom of Saudi Arabia) to destroy various secular governments in the region to create power vacuums which allowed al Qaida to flourish? Don't you know that the Saudi nationals have the same nutty religion (Salafism/ Takfirism/ Wahhabism) as the jihadists running around who are beheading people?

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/saudi/analyses/wahhabism
.html


Oh, wait, what am I saying? It's not like the jihadists behead/ stone/ flog apostates, and KSA doesn't. Those Saudis royals and their monarchy are just as barbaric as their more mobile brethren, al Qaida, al Nusra, ISIS, and their various affiliates and offshoots. We aren't "fighting ISIS". We're just pretending to fight ISIS because ISIS is the love-child of Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and Qatar (our allies in the Middle East).

The soldiers that we put in harm's way are just puppets in a theater of the absurd, and the title of the play is "The Global War on Terror". We foment a tidal wave of terror, and then toss a few sacrificial lam ... I mean, highly dedicated and exquisitely-trained soldiers ... at it from the opposite direction. All to keep you fooled into thinking that we're really on the side of the "good guys".

Throwing their lives into the maw is a pointless and cynical public relations exercise. What a tragedy that anyone should die for such an unsupported cause.


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And this week, General Allen tried to reassure officials in the Sunni monarchies in the Persian Gulf that the United States would not join forces with the Russians in Syria or tacitly support their actions.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/24/world/middleeast/general-john-allen-
obama-isis.html?_r=0



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Monday, October 26, 2015 5:24 AM

Here's the thing: If POTUS says that we're leaving 10-20 thousand troops, he'll get criticized for extending the war. But this is part of the strategy, you keep your enemy off-balance by saying you're bringing home the troops. What good would it be if you telegraph the enemy your intentions.

Please folks use a little brain power and think before you speak, or, in this case, post ill-advised comments (that includes ill-advised innuendos).

POTUS pulls off the "screen" play..............touchdown.......the crowd goes wild!


SGG


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Originally posted by THGRRI:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:



OK, now that's out of the way, hoorah to the fallen.

Honor to the Peshmerga!

Yep.

It was a bad ass and heroic act on the part of Delta Force to jump in and assist in the mission.

That's who we are.

Be at peace, Master Sergeant Joshua Wheeler,

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen


I decided to remove Obama's video and address the attack on him.

He did say we were fighting ISIS and he never said we would not use special forces for any reason. Missions always change anyway. This is one of several such missions and your latching onto this so you can attack our commander and chief says lots about your false patriotism.


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Monday, October 26, 2015 5:37 AM

Guess who has all the money in the World?

http://sayitaintsoalready.com/2009/04/15/george-bush-kisses-a-saudi-pr
ince/bush-kisses-saudi-prince-4-15-09
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Monday, October 26, 2015 11:40 AM

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Here's the thing: If POTUS says that we're leaving 10-20 thousand troops, he'll get criticized for extending the war. But this is part of the strategy, you keep your enemy off-balance by saying you're bringing home the troops. What good would it be if you telegraph the enemy your intentions.

Please folks use a little brain power and think before you speak, or, in this case, post ill-advised comments (that includes ill-advised innuendos).

Oh, are you talking about/to me???

Yanno, USA policy in the Mideast extends far beyond THIS President. In fact, THIS President has shown far more independence from Saudi Arabia than most former Presidents, back to WWII.

There's a reason why the former head of Saudi Security ... the one that threatened Putin with Chechen terrorists at Sochi .... was known as Prince Bandar "Bush" bin Sultan. It's because Prince Bandar "Bush" bin Sultan had an exceptionally close relationship with both Bush Presidents... AND an exceptionally close relationships with terrorists. You should look it up and confirm it ... it's everywhere from Wikipedia to the NYT.

Now, the link between Saudi Arabia and al Qaida was very well-known. Not just the funding of fundamentalist madrasses throughout the Horn and Africa and the Mideast, and the individual case of Osama bin Laden (a Saudi, funded by Saudis AND the USA) but historically.

"Those who would not conform to this view should be killed, their wives and daughters violated, and their possessions confiscated" ALL Muslims must individually pledge their allegiance to a single Muslim leader (a Caliph, if there were one). Those who would not conform to this view should be killed, their wives and daughters violated, and their possessions confiscated

Who wrote this? Abu Baki al Bagdhadi, the founder of ISIS???

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No, Abd al-Wahhab, the founder of Wahhabism, somewhere around 1740



Here's an interesting article about the fundamental role of Wahhabism in the founding of the Saudi tribe as the monarch of the peninsula.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alastair-crooke/isis-wahhabism-saudi-ara
bia_b_5717157.html


Now, I find the article somewhat confusingly written, but the short story is that al-Wahhab, who believed in some weird form of Islam, was banished from his tribal area in 1740, and settled with Ibn Saud, leader of a tribe in the Nejd desert. Ibn Saud saw the utility of Wahhabism in granting his banditry religious authority.
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Ibn Saud's clan, seizing on Abd al-Wahhab's doctrine, now could do what they always did, which was raiding neighboring villages and robbing them of their possessions. Only now they were doing it not within the ambit of Arab tradition, but rather under the banner of jihad. Ibn Saud and Abd al-Wahhab also reintroduced the idea of martyrdom in the name of jihad, as it granted those martyred immediate entry into paradise.


With al-Wahhab,
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Ibn Saud committed a massacre in Karbala in 1801. He proudly documented that massacre saying, "we took Karbala and slaughtered and took its people (as slaves), then praise be to Allah, Lord of the Worlds, and we do not apologize for that and say: 'And to the unbelievers: the same treatment.'"
Between al-Wahhab, Ibn Saud, and his son Abdul Aziz, and HIS son Saud bin Abd al Aziz, they conquered Mecca, Medina, and the rest of Arabia. But by 1812, the Ottoman Empire squashed the first Saudi/Wahhabi kingdom, and Wahhabism went to hibernate in the Nejd desert.

ONE HUNDRED YEARS LATER, with the collapse of the Ottoman Empire during WWII (~1914) Wahhabism and the House of Saud make a resurgence, and Wahhabism and the House of Saud have been sharing Arabia ever since.

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The Al Saud -- in this 20th century renaissance -- were led by the laconic and politically astute Abd-al Aziz [NOT the same Aziz previously cited] who, on uniting the fractious Bedouin tribes, launched the Saudi "Ikhwan" [HOLY WA

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