Mixed Martial Arts
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Since a certain someone wants something other than what is the current norm around here let us talk about Mixed Martial Arts.
I'm a MMA fan and have been one for quite some time. For those of you not familiar with the sport, MMA is full contact fighting in which most types of striking (punches, kicks, knees…est.) are allowed as well as grappling.
Fights are won by knocking your opponent out, by submitting your opponent or by judges decision.
This Saturday night is the next UFC event. The UFC (Ultimate Fighting Championships) is the premier MMA organization in the world. Saturday's main event has the current Heavyweight Champion Junior Dos Santos defending his title against the man he took it from Cain Velasquez.
So...anyone here a fan or watched MMA before? Anyone against it?
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I personally find it fascinating to watch, but kind of against my better Buddhist judgement. No one is forced to do it though...
As a martial artist there is a high degree of technical interest for me, but I wouldn't want my Son to do it.
BUT, I don't seek it out, rather if it's on and I pass it, I'll look in.
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I like martial arts! But I think instead of knockouts it should be sparring rules, first hit or first blood decides the match.
If you knock someone out, that can be serious business, that's how all these football types are getting all these concussions. I am uncertain how comfortable I am with aspects of sports that encourage actually injuring an opponent, it seems to go against rules of sportsmanship I personally ascribe to.
But in training or in a real fight I can understand how important it is to go all out, same with competitions. The martial arts shouldn't be intended as window dressing either, they do have to be functional enough to turn aside an aggressor. Very tricky.
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Right now most of the knockouts are really technical knockouts. One fighter gets hit hard enough to be dazed and unable to defend himself and the referee steps in.
That being said I understand your view BYTE. The point is still to try and hurt your opponent.
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I've never been a fan of martial arts for fun outside of art (movies and exhibitions). Beating on people until they pass out FOR REAL is a very weird way to put a smile on your face. The kung fu I learned was about causing maximum pain quickly so you could get away from a violent situation, it was about disarming your assailant and in extreme cases it was about breaking bones and causing nerve damage. This getting into a fight and staying there until one or the other of you can't get up is unethical and the human form of cruelty to animals. Count me as again'it!
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How do you know that what you have been taught really works? MMA competitions have shown that pure disciplines such a Kung Fu don't work very well in real fights.
I do understand your objections, but the human form of cruelty to animals? Last time I checked a human to give consent, an animal could not.
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Do you need to be mauled by a cat to know it can mess you up? My school was eclectic, drawing from many traditions. "Sport martial arts" don't "work" anyway, 'cause if they did, the contetants would all have broken bones and lacerated tendons and such. One of the easiest and most effective moves you can learn is the knee break, but nobody does that move in competition because it could end someone's career. Sport martial arts are designed to look damaging but not to be damaging in any perminent way. The motto of my school was "One hit, one destruction." Open sparring was something we didn't get into until our first degree.
Consent is overrated. People "consent" to all manner of heinous crap. Women "consent" to being abused by their husbands but it's still abuse and I still don't think it's good for people. Sorry.
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The only MMA that works is wrestling, mixed with strikes to the most vulnerable parts.
And strength, always strength.
Just ask yourself this...
If "martial arts" were so great... like, some magical thing...
How did the Marines beat the Japanese in WW2? A LOT of it was hand to hand combat.
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Originally posted by HKCavalier:
Do you need to be mauled by a cat to know it can mess you up? My school was eclectic, drawing from many traditions. "Sport martial arts" don't "work" anyway, 'cause if they did, the contetants would all have broken bones and lacerated tendons and such. One of the easiest and most effective moves you can learn is the knee break, but nobody does that move in competition because it could end someone's career. Sport martial arts are designed to look damaging but not to be damaging in any perminent way. The motto of my school was "One hit, one destruction." Open sparring was something we didn't get into until our first degree.
I'm talking about Mixed Martial Arts competition. People have tried to knee break in matches, never really works.
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