US Double Standards
POSTED BY: GinoBiffaroni
UPDATED: Friday, September 16, 2005 16:50
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Just thinking...
Why does the US pump Millions ( likely more ) into Opposition partys ( of any country who doesn't give in competely to them ) through this National Endowment for Democracy...
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/999622DF-5E5B-4E47-857A-81E92E4
A1E60.htm
http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/articles.php?artno=1498
When their own election laws forbid any foreign campaign donations to anyone...
http://writ.news.findlaw.com/scripts/printer_friendly.pl?page=/dorf/20
031224.html
Does this seem right ?
I would say either quit doing it yourself... or open things and and allow it.
Don't think they give a shit
I'm with Signy and Rue
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Why does the U.S. government allow U.S. drug companies to test vaccines and substances outside the country that they won't permit to be tested here (the supposed hepititus-B vaccine tested in Africa the was the basis for the AIDS epidemic, anyone?)?
It's the golden rule, my man.
And expendable people.
And endless double-standards.
But most aren't even marginally aware of these things.
Livin' in the margin Chrisisall
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Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
Just thinking...
Why does the US pump Millions ( likely more ) into Opposition partys ( of any country who doesn't give in competely to them ) through this National Endowment for Democracy...
When their own election laws forbid any foreign campaign donations to anyone...
Does this seem right ?
Makes perfect sense to me.
We support liberty. Outsiders attempting to influence us would undermine that effort here and abroad. Thus we do not allow it (with the exception of China so long as the funds come from Buddist monks.
H
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Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
Just thinking...
Why does the US pump Millions ( likely more ) into Opposition partys ( of any country who doesn't give in competely to them ) through this National Endowment for Democracy...
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/999622DF-5E5B-4E47-857A-81E92E4
A1E60.htm
http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/articles.php?artno=1498
When their own election laws forbid any foreign campaign donations to anyone...
http://writ.news.findlaw.com/scripts/printer_friendly.pl?page=/dorf/20
031224.html
Does this seem right ?
I would say either quit doing it yourself... or open things and and allow it.
Well, here's Sumate's response.
http://www.sumate.org/casolegalenglish.asp
and here's the guidelines for the NED grant.
http://www.sumate.org/documentos/NED%20Grant.pdf
and an interesting blog
http://daniel-venezuela.blogspot.com/2005/06/who-is-afraid-of-sumate.h
tml
BTW, the grant to Sumate, which got them in so much trouble, was $54,000.00.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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"(the supposed hepititus-B vaccine tested in Africa the was the basis for the AIDS epidemic, anyone?)?"
Dude, you can't throw a detail like that out there, and leave it dangling, unsupported.
--Anthony
"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner
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Originally posted by Geezer:Quote:
Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
Just thinking...
Why does the US pump Millions ( likely more ) into Opposition partys ( of any country who doesn't give in competely to them ) through this National Endowment for Democracy...
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/999622DF-5E5B-4E47-857A-81E92E4
A1E60.htm
http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/articles.php?artno=1498
When their own election laws forbid any foreign campaign donations to anyone...
http://writ.news.findlaw.com/scripts/printer_friendly.pl?page=/dorf/20
031224.html
Does this seem right ?
I would say either quit doing it yourself... or open things and and allow it.
Well, here's Sumate's response.
http://www.sumate.org/casolegalenglish.asp
and here's the guidelines for the NED grant.
http://www.sumate.org/documentos/NED%20Grant.pdf
and an interesting blog
http://daniel-venezuela.blogspot.com/2005/06/who-is-afraid-of-sumate.h
tml
BTW, the grant to Sumate, which got them in so much trouble, was $54,000.00.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
I would agree that going after sumate doesn't make sense... unless they change their laws to reflect yours...
The amount doesn't matter... by your laws I cannot donate $54,000.00 to influence your political process... but you deem it fair to throw your money into mine ?
Also the precident doing this also causes other problem, such as Haiti :
http://www.williambowles.info/ini/ini-026.html
You threw your money and backing against the ELECTED leader Aristide...
but allowed asylum for Jean-Claude [‘Baby Doc’] Duvalier.... a mass murderer... but a pro American one so thats okay... or is it ?
Haiti, the Chile of the 90's
Don't think they give a shit
I'm with Signy and Rue
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Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
... by your laws I cannot donate $54,000.00 to influence your political process... but you deem it fair to throw your money into mine ?
Not quite correct. You cannot contribute to a candidate or political party. I don't find anything that would prohibit you from contributing to a non-partisan voter registration or voter education organization. If you wanted to support the League of Women Voters, for example, there's no restriction on that.
Sumate claims to be a non-profit, non-partisan organization, similar to the LWV, "...a national association of citizens and professionals dedicated to promoting a peaceful democratic solution to the political crisis in Venezuela."
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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Quote:Probably THE biggest cover-up in history due to the MASSIVE dollar value attached to the culpability. What I know comes from many radio and (admittedly) left wing magazines from the mid to late eighties. The absurd idea that green tree monkeys have had this virus for decades only to bite their FIRST human in the late seventies sounded like horse***t to me the first time I heard it. So I avidly wanted to learn as much as I could. The gist is that it was accidentally created by combining hepititus-B with a bovine-retrovirus (sp?), it was tested on a portion of an African village population, who started developing immune problems. The 'scientists' were evacuated, and all traces eradicated. Then a visitor from Hati (who happened to be gay) got it before going back to his country and infecting others including a gay visitor from America (our patient zero).
Originally posted by AnthonyT:
"(the supposed hepititus-B vaccine tested in Africa the was the basis for the AIDS epidemic, anyone?)?"
Dude, you can't throw a detail like that out there, and leave it dangling, unsupported.
http://www.originofaids.com/
has some info, but for obvious legal reasons, won't go into the role the US government played in the mess.
http://www.garynull.com/Issues/Aids2ndOpinion.aspx
This book deals with it in much better detail.
Anyway, this is off topic, I only brought it up to highlight how we use the double standards everywhere, for everything.
Chrisisall
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Originally posted by Hero:
We support liberty. Outsiders attempting to influence us would undermine that effort here and abroad.
And we're supposed to believe blindly that's the whole agenda involved? I think not; maybe in 1950s-era comic books.
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I didn't do it.
You can't prove it.
The sheep are lying.
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Originally posted by Spinland:Quote:
Originally posted by Hero:
We support liberty. Outsiders attempting to influence us would undermine that effort here and abroad.
And we're supposed to believe blindly that's the whole agenda involved?
Why not?
Seems you believe just as blindly that there's more to it then that.
Sometimes ya just gotta believe. God Bless America and all that.
H
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